Message from @Pill Clinton

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2020-09-29 01:44:12 UTC  

an upgrade that did not take

2020-09-29 01:44:13 UTC  

Just spoke to an Azure cloud engineer and he said that issues stemmed from there

2020-09-29 01:44:42 UTC  

Not all systems updated right

2020-09-29 01:44:44 UTC  

Azure is used to service a lot of legacy systems (old windows machines) that are rife with issues, and the platform itself is pretty jank

2020-09-29 01:45:02 UTC  

So, they have to go back and isolate them and re-update them and then re go live again

2020-09-29 01:45:18 UTC  

What I hear at least - and have done

2020-09-29 01:45:34 UTC  

Have done the same and outages are unavoidable

2020-09-29 01:45:48 UTC  

most the time

2020-09-29 01:46:06 UTC  

makes you feel like shit

2020-09-29 01:46:09 UTC  

Unless it’s a well engineered system with staging and production which I doubt

2020-09-29 01:46:12 UTC  

but it has to be done

2020-09-29 01:46:41 UTC  

Oracle, while frustrating, was better at this

2020-09-29 01:49:18 UTC  

Purely database backed apps can usually be restored cause snapshots actually work

2020-09-29 01:49:24 UTC  

And capture the entire state

2020-09-29 01:49:59 UTC  

Yes, but not with cloud

2020-09-29 01:50:29 UTC  

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2020-09-29 01:50:29 UTC  

Well cloud can be ok if you do it right but you can also do it horribly wrong and then you’re doomed

2020-09-29 01:50:37 UTC  

Something fishy going on

2020-09-29 01:50:57 UTC  

They don’t have back up servers?...

2020-09-29 01:50:58 UTC  

No way it wasn't a functional azure update

2020-09-29 01:51:08 UTC  

That runs the government cloud operations

2020-09-29 01:51:09 UTC  

I know it is a big upgrade and everyuone has been doing it - also security patches

2020-09-29 01:51:30 UTC  

> That runs the government cloud operations
@Pill Clinton CIA uses Amazon’s AWS

2020-09-29 01:51:32 UTC  

Buy more amazon stock imo

2020-09-29 01:51:44 UTC  

There's been so much migration to Azure by other agencies

2020-09-29 01:51:56 UTC  

They should use AWS. It’s cheaper

2020-09-29 01:52:02 UTC  

There's other Defense agencies that use Azure

2020-09-29 01:52:29 UTC  

And honestly if you’re agency hiding secret and sensitive info you should probably be working on local servers

2020-09-29 01:52:54 UTC  

Lol nah that's that beauty of contracting

2020-09-29 01:53:01 UTC  

Using cloud is just asking for trouble

2020-09-29 01:53:38 UTC  

I am a software engineer making on prem private clouds

2020-09-29 01:53:47 UTC  

It has its own issues tbh

2020-09-29 01:54:04 UTC  

But hey, air gaps!

2020-09-29 01:54:48 UTC  

For sure, but migrating locally based servers to a scaled network that can be utilized across agencies and users has a huge benefit for SIGINT and other intel gathering

2020-09-29 01:54:54 UTC  

One day Amazon or Microsoft won’t exist... so what do all these businesses do running on Azure or AWS?

2020-09-29 01:55:32 UTC  

database conversions

2020-09-29 01:55:36 UTC  

Look up DMSMS

2020-09-29 01:55:48 UTC  

Amazon will probably exist for thousands of years just on inertia

2020-09-29 01:56:43 UTC  

Azure caters to jacked up legacy IT stuff that is too complex to be worth converting to modern design

2020-09-29 01:56:45 UTC  

The anti trust laws going to catch up with these big QQQ companies

2020-09-29 01:57:16 UTC  

When your only alternative as a contractor is building something in house at an absurd cost, that's when the government gets pissed