But the sad part is that the Two witnesses will be killed when they are done giving a testimony to the world. Most likely they are going to willingly go to crucified by the evil forces of the Earth and the whole world will watch them on their TV sets or w/e we have at that point. Then after they get crucified they will lay in the street for 3 1/2 days (Same amount of days as Jesus was in the tomb) and then they will be resurected and fly up into Heaven in view of everyone (with the News outlets rolling their film broadcasting it).

Is that scripturally based? It’s not the first time I’ve heard that, but it seems a bit too detailed/specific for scripture

Revelation 11:7 says "Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them." Revelation 11:11-12 says 11 But after the three and a half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on. It is assumed that that if the Two witnesses were to be "like christ" they would be like christ and go willingly to "feed their enemy". If their enemies are hungry they will feed them, if they thirst they will give them water. They would have to be "like christ" because they going to be dead for 3 1/2 days. They would want to come as close to Jesus as possible. It is also assumed that the world would be broadcasting the events unfolding with the Two Witnesses because they had plagued the world with all sorts of nonsense for a long time and then when they are finally killed they will celebrate.

The two witnesses will know that the Anti Christ is not actually Christ while the rest of the world could be fooled by it. So there actually may be some truth to the 'Project Blue Beam' thing. The Anti christ could come and start revealing a bunch of secrets about human kind and he will perform miracles along with his false prophets. I'm going to say that the two witnesses will "Call out" the anti christ and then a whole bunch of crazy things will start happening. It's quite possible the Jews will think that the Anti Christ is the Messiah for a while and then eventually it will come to pass where they will realize that they were made fools and were wrong.

@ManX Did you hear about the 'National Day of prayer and Return" that took place today?

no I missed that

Thanks for the specifics too, much appreciated

Supposedly the event was about prayer and having the people of God return to him so that they may be spared from the wrath of God. It was sorta of like a plea of "We are going to pray and then all of our problems are going to go away". The premise of the event was in reference to what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah; when Abraham pleaded to God to spare the lives on those in Sodom and Gomorrah and Abraham kept negotiating with God that if Abraham found at least a few people who were holy that God would spare the whole city. Abraham couldn't find those "holy people" and God ended up destroying them.

The part I don't like about the event is that the people organizing the event were trying to imply that we could stop the judgement of God just like in the days of Old..which isn't going to happen. This is revelations and you can't stop the judgement that is being put fourth by God. The only thing that will solve the problem is when ALL of the plagues are over and done with and then judgement occurs. This is in part why the Two witnesses will eventually have to sacrifice themselves because they know the only way for the Lord to return is if they die according the prophecy.

You truly believe this is here and now end times?

yes

I know it is the end times; I don't just believe it anymore

I know in part and prophesy in part

1 Corinthians 13:9-12
King James Version
9 "For we know in part, and we prophesy in part."

I want to be that convicted but I’m not there yet

That is a good spirit you have. Continue to stay poor in spirit. Matthew 5:3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

You get taught the most important lessons there are to learn by being poor in spirit which means that you aren;t going to commit fully to an idea that someone gives you and you sort of place that idea or w/e to the side and let other information flow into your life

The door is small and the way is hard my friend. I envy your knowledge.

I will say as well that just because I say " I know this!" doesn't mean i'll find myself sometimes sitting alone and thinking "hmmm, what if i'm wrong and this isn't the end times".

I admire your knowledge about clinging to that which is good and admonishing that which is evil.

You give me too much credit. Faith is a thing which I have to strive for each day

On a separate but similar note; i've seen a push to get people to deny God and start following the 'Alien and UFO' route. This path leads people to deny God and start believing in all sorts of weird stuff. Alot of people who go looking for that truth end up dead or missing because they start off exploring something they know nothing about and they start off by denying the creator (which is a big no no) you basically leave yourself open to attack from all sorts of evil.

I have no doubt that something like that will find its way into your life and that "knowledge" will challenge you

Just remember that there are Angels and Demons here on Earth. If you can remember that; then no matter what information comes your way God will give you the RIGHT understanding of how to process it

Hebrews 13:2 says
New International Version
"Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it."

Which means that there will be fallen Angels that you will have to be kind to

That’s very good advice. Thank you. I do pray for guidance regularly. One of those things that always provides peace to the soul I difficult times.

You don't have to pray to these Angels or worship them (and the non-fallen ones will tell you not to pray to them either).

My mom used to tell me you never know when God is giving you an opportunity to prove your character

Your mom is a very smart woman

I’ve never understood the praying to Mary though

Me neither

I pray to God and Jesus, and most of the time it’s just both at the same time cause I’m not entirely sure where one begins and the other ends

Catholics believe that she is Mother of God or something like that. In any case; whatever strange doctrine comes your way; just remember that the creator of everything YHWH had to die and take on all the sin of the world and he was ressurected. As long as you recognize that Yehoshua(God is Savior) [also know as (Lord Jesus Christ)] then you will be fine.

Yup we’re on the same page on that front

> I pray to God and Jesus, and most of the time it’s just both at the same time cause I’m not entirely sure where one begins and the other ends
@ManX He knows what is in your heart; keep on doing what you're doing.

@ManX Also. Have you ever tried to pray in the spirit? I'm not talking about praying with words; but using your mind to pray. The best way I can describe it is think of doing a math problem in your head. Now try to pray for someone without being distracted or have something compete for your attention.

Not sure entirely

It is a new experience to find out that there are things and forces that will try to stop you from praying in the spirit.

Give it a try