Message from @The Big Oof
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well, I can answer that, it's near to zero
These "activists" are not out there to make a difference, and 75% of people who claim that are lying through their fucking teeth
whatever you say
Because I guess my experiences in leftist circles
seeing people actively fight for what they believe in
They're there for moral and social points, which is why they protest and rally around the dumbest fucking shit
for what they believe needs to be done
And go after targets that make no sense
is just "virtue signalling"
Razor.
I don't believe you. You're clearly a biased source. I'd assume you don't believe my experiences, either
Also, who are you to judge?
I've rarely met an "environmental activist" in my personal life who lived up to their own standards
you don't claim that they don't know what they're fighting for
just that they're "lying"
which you clearly wouldn't be able to tell
"What's wrong with foreigners"
Do you think a white man in China will consider himself Chinese?
Do you think his children will consider themselves Chinese?
Does it matter?
No.
You've yet to prove why the vague notion of a national identity matters
and actually, yes
"Why does it matter if you have people in your country that don't identify with it"
given enough time, and acceptance by the government
they would
oh fuck, you're right
Exile all dissidents
my bad
sure, you might be born here, but you don't truly love our nation
Hell, I'm a natural born, pasty, white American, I don't really identify as American. I accept I was born here, I feel no loyalty towards America
You like to say a lot of bullshit without giving anyone time to explain, so instead you just argue what you perceive to be their position for them and then have an argument with yourself
I'm loyal to my ideals
also
Should you continue, I will simply not respond
Why should people be loyal to nations?
I'm pointing out how your argument makes no sense when taken to its logical conslusion
Unless you're just arguing that xenophobia is a good thing
Except you haven't, you introduce a new point and then argue against my perceived response, and when I respond, you're already halfway through arguing with yourself, so now I have to repeat that again, rinse and repeat
Seems like my characterization of you was ironically correct
Go ahead and answer why one should be loyal to nations, then