is that you shouldn't be proud your nation killed a fuck ton of people

They put Muslims in concentration camps, but it's okay because they're within their borders @SilverLining

Right?

in fact, you shouldn't be proud

No, ofc not

I'm not defending these corpses at all

You implied that it wasn't as bad

Not really

Do you think that?

no

Alright, well you did, but I think after I pointed out what you said, you realize how fucking retarded it was.

Moving on

Anyway

brb for a sec

and no, I didn't

"What I'm trying to point out
is that you shouldn't be proud your nation killed a fuck ton of people"

You shouldn't , correct, but you shouldn't hate yourself for something your ancestors did when tons of other nations tried the same thing @SilverLining

I referred to domestic corpses to point out how it's not on the same scope

not on the same scale

This whole side-argument is pointless

It's a whataboutism

It's not

You also, again

said

"Values is the incorrect term
The correct wording should be self pride"

implying nations should have pride in their ancestors

You're simply trying to get out of defending your cognitive dissonance

which raped, pillaged, and murdered plenty of others

And what did I just say in response?

""What I'm trying to point out
is that you shouldn't be proud your nation killed a fuck ton of people"

You shouldn't , correct, but you shouldn't hate yourself for something your ancestors did when tons of other nations tried the same thing"

That is why other nations were brought in

If I've got some cognitive dissonance you most certainly do too, by sticking up for those values

Except I didn't

anyhow

brb for like 30 seconds

You should quote me where I defended that

You argue like every other leftist, lol, even if you were not a leftist, you nonetheless think like one

The leftist has a black and white view of the world, and therefore, shape the image of their opponents into unrealistic caricatures.

which, ironically enough, results in the same happening to you

I mean, you proclaimed "Values is the incorrect term, the correct wording should be self pride", in a discussion of whether europeans should stick to their values or not

so there was most certainly at least implied, if not outright support, for europeans having pride

"They should be proud to be European"

is a far cry from "They should be proud that their ancestors kills and pillaged"