Message from @Enigmatic★Chromatic

Discord ID: 505164051739836432


2018-10-25 23:28:00 UTC  

And the division between anarchist and communist versions of socialism

2018-10-25 23:29:23 UTC  

Oh and between Reform and Revolution

2018-10-25 23:30:09 UTC  

Marxism however is the current Hegemonic Socialist position, as it's the most thorough, scientific and also has successfully conducted revolution

2018-10-25 23:32:52 UTC  

"scientific"😂

2018-10-25 23:33:51 UTC  

Yes actually, Marxism is much like a science in how it's conducted. I'm not sure I would call it a science in the modern sense so to speak, but it is characteristic of one

2018-10-25 23:34:10 UTC  

It uses much of the methodology and philosophical backing of a science

2018-10-25 23:34:12 UTC  

i understand that well

2018-10-25 23:34:55 UTC  

It is not. The only two theories that are dominant in economics for example, Keynesian and free market, both are different than Marxist economics

2018-10-25 23:35:17 UTC  

Only Marxists says that their view is scientific. No one else does

2018-10-25 23:35:22 UTC  

There is a lot to unpack here

2018-10-25 23:35:59 UTC  

It is simple. Whether you agree that these two are only dominant theories and whether Marxism is different than them

2018-10-25 23:36:02 UTC  

It seems you're more focused on 'winning' than having a conversation

2018-10-25 23:37:03 UTC  

I am trying to break down the argument in logical form.

2018-10-25 23:37:25 UTC  

May I ask, what kind of right winger are you?

2018-10-25 23:38:55 UTC  

Well I just call myself on Right and even that a little uncomfortably. I am not a Neo con or traditionalist or conservative or rothbardian or libertarian.

2018-10-25 23:39:19 UTC  

fucking niggers bastardized hegelianism

2018-10-25 23:39:56 UTC  

Okay then can you lay out what you are for?

2018-10-25 23:40:41 UTC  

Marx's Dialectic is the same as Hegel's with only one change, that he places the material first and the ideal second. That is all

2018-10-25 23:40:54 UTC  

Do you want me to lay my every position? 😂
I know that.

2018-10-25 23:41:12 UTC  

It was for the NPC

2018-10-25 23:41:35 UTC  

Anyways, ehh like economically, and what the government should he structured like

2018-10-25 23:41:40 UTC  

who is the npc

2018-10-25 23:41:47 UTC  

You

2018-10-25 23:41:56 UTC  

what?

2018-10-25 23:42:33 UTC  

npc in what way?

2018-10-25 23:42:40 UTC  

Well. I believe that capitalism is good for growth and social welfare should be provided locally by communities like as in Mormons have

2018-10-25 23:43:26 UTC  

Okay, you're like a bog standard conservative then

2018-10-25 23:44:22 UTC  

No. Because there are many positions wherein I differ from conservatives. But if you think that alone makes you conservative then fine.

2018-10-25 23:44:36 UTC  

Well, where do you differ?

2018-10-25 23:45:33 UTC  

lol i guarantee that nobody on this server has the same positions as me

2018-10-25 23:46:00 UTC  

*diversity*

2018-10-25 23:46:02 UTC  

I could say the same for myself, but I don't think that's really all that interesting or special

2018-10-25 23:46:03 UTC  

Of thought

2018-10-25 23:46:08 UTC  

Lol. On a lot of issues. Like I am pro environmentalism and pro animal welfare. I am ok with hawkish stance but do not like democracy. I do not support extreme punishment for serious crimes

2018-10-25 23:46:27 UTC  

Huh

2018-10-25 23:46:37 UTC  

@Draco either a natsoc or a lib

2018-10-25 23:46:40 UTC  

Which is it

2018-10-25 23:46:48 UTC  

why don’t you support justice?

2018-10-25 23:46:50 UTC  

i volunteered with rspca for long time

2018-10-25 23:46:53 UTC  

Neither. I am surely not a liberal

2018-10-25 23:46:56 UTC  

Are you Vegan?