U think hitler wanted with war with the Allies or who @The Big Oof

Hitler shouldve waited until i existed to kill internation jews

Tensions were high and both sides hated each other, but only one of those two was willing to actually start it

that being Hitler

I would be a great attack dog

also, Stalin didn't want to attack Germany, he actually wanted to be a part of the Axis Powers a little while after their non-aggression pact was signed

and fight against Great Britain with Hitler

this gets forgotten

>hitler wanted to start the war

Stalin thought he couldnt fight Hitler

he winded up being wrong, but at the time he didnm't believe he could

How many territories did Hitler forcefully occupy before war was finally declared?

And the allies conceded not just once

So was Hitler supposed to be allowed to get away with just marching in and taking whatever territory he felt was his?

>but it used to be German

and sure, a lot of it did

But he got a lot back

before the war started

Same way i walk into rooms, im big and strong and have guns

If you take half my cake, I ask for it all back, yet you only give 3/4 of what you took back

How is that fair

How do you expect someone to respond when they see you rebuilding your military and walking in and taking over territory?

Even if it was once yours

Submission

What is the response inevitably always going to be

no

*nukes your capital*

That doesnt justify that it was *my cake* and I was taking it back

However I see your point.

For the sake of argument, even if this was the case, and it was all Hitler wanted like you claim

Why then did he turn around and invade the Soviet Union at a time when Stalin
1. Was not interested in war
2. Was completely incapable of attacking Germany

Alright.

Hitler's attack on Russia was a pre-emptive strike because they had revealed plans that the Soviet Union had to invade europe.

Whether these plans were enough justification is debatable, so I don't take sides on that, however, all I know is that he fought the russians because his generals revealed a plan they discovered that Russia has planned to invade europe

That wasn't how I understood it, wasn't the final cause of the falling out a combination of:
1. A seemingly aggressive proposal on Stalin's part
2. Positioning of Soviet troops and the situation with Finland

?

According to a former officer of the Soviet military intelligence and a defector to the UK, in his book, "Icebreaker: Who Started The Second World War" Soviet ground forces were well-organized and mobilized en masse along the German–Soviet frontier for a Soviet invasion of Europe slated for Sunday, July 6, 1941 but were unprepared to defend their own territory.

(In his book.)

Maybe, but I've read about a quote from Stalin where he said the Soviet military wasn't going to be prepared to fight Germany for another few years

I see