Message from @Excelsior

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2018-08-11 21:14:40 UTC  

I'm just saying invading like

2018-08-11 21:14:44 UTC  

Poland would be an absolute failure

2018-08-11 21:14:55 UTC  

Poland is the new Germany

2018-08-11 21:15:12 UTC  

Also with Ukraine/Belarus Russia just funds insurgents

2018-08-11 21:15:21 UTC  

It's economy is growing on par and will soon overtake in rates against germany

2018-08-11 21:15:53 UTC  

War is useful, without it we wouldn't be here. We wouldn't have any of this land.

2018-08-11 21:16:47 UTC  

War is necessary to purge the weak

2018-08-11 21:16:47 UTC  

Not taking into account nuclear weapons

2018-08-11 21:17:08 UTC  

You can't attack a nation with nuclear weapons nor a country in a nuclear umbrella

2018-08-11 21:17:09 UTC  

No one would use nukes against a nuclear power

2018-08-11 21:17:16 UTC  

MAD policy

2018-08-11 21:17:17 UTC  

lol u wot

2018-08-11 21:17:34 UTC  

MAD works with land invasions too

2018-08-11 21:17:44 UTC  

oh you mean in a full invasion of the country

2018-08-11 21:18:03 UTC  

Ukraine wasn't in a nuclear umbrella and neither was Iraq/Afghanistan

2018-08-11 21:18:20 UTC  

then just invade everyone else

2018-08-11 21:18:31 UTC  

So yeah you could feasibly invade countries that aren't alligned with a nuclear power

2018-08-11 21:18:51 UTC  

But then those countries are quite worthless

2018-08-11 21:19:04 UTC  

Not necessarily

2018-08-11 21:19:35 UTC  

Non-Nuclear World War 3 would be nice tbh

2018-08-11 21:24:20 UTC  

What would there be for America to gain?

2018-08-11 21:24:49 UTC  

Technological advancement at an accelerated rate

2018-08-11 21:24:54 UTC  

Economic skyrocketing

2018-08-11 21:25:05 UTC  

Stronger sense of nationalism

2018-08-11 22:00:44 UTC  

good liveleak videos

2018-08-11 22:04:13 UTC  

In what scenario does America being at war with its economic interests overseas or having them damaged inadvertently make the economy "skyrocket"?

2018-08-11 22:05:05 UTC  

GDP only increases artificially during war because war-related industries are given financial incentive to expand dramatically. This wealth does not reach "the people", the economy as a whole doesn't benefit.

2018-08-11 22:05:31 UTC  

The USSR for example had their GDP expand rapidly during WWII but their economy was basically shredded.

2018-08-11 22:06:27 UTC  

And what technological advancement would happen in a world war that wouldn't happen in the petty police actions we have today? If anything it would be stifled because there would be less money to give to ambitious projects that are really just money sinkholes like the F-35.

2018-08-11 22:06:46 UTC  

At least I assume that's your reasoning, that war would drive innovation.

2018-08-11 22:08:00 UTC  

A world war does not benefit America at all given how interconnected the American economy is with the world. Globalization and interdependence through free trade is the single biggest factor by a long shot why there are no longer massive wars between countries anymore, because the benefit of gaining raw resources is far outstripped by diplomatic blowback and a restriction to traded resources.

2018-08-11 22:08:07 UTC  

America is definitely the biggest example of this.

2018-08-11 22:08:22 UTC  

tl;dr, saying America would benefit from a world war is completely ignorant.

2018-08-11 22:10:50 UTC  

And I can only assume that when Oscar ignorantly said the capital of Russia was Kiev, he was talking about the Kievan Rus' which was:
A) Scandinavian.
B) and the original capital was Novgorod, Kiev was the strategic capital.

2018-08-11 22:11:42 UTC  

The sheer ignorance here is a lot to take in. 😢

2018-08-13 14:30:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/478571011202220042/tumblr_p53kthzNA01wehrd6o1_540.png

2018-08-13 15:04:32 UTC  

10/10 economics

2018-08-13 16:07:15 UTC  

*Apartheid Intensifies*

2018-08-13 16:47:40 UTC  

It's a fake quote so it belongs in <#463779195114225685>.

2018-08-13 16:48:29 UTC  

Got eeeem

2018-08-13 16:52:47 UTC  

@bimmler yeah why the fuck this in <#452955229227319306>