Message from @♥ Nalokotniki ♥

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2018-10-23 02:48:53 UTC  

It would be like a S. Korea 2

2018-10-23 02:49:10 UTC  

Not anymore than it would have for South Korea

2018-10-23 02:49:17 UTC  

And to a lesser degree japan

2018-10-23 06:13:24 UTC  

Why did US lose the vietnam war tho

2018-10-23 06:18:07 UTC  

Because they did cucked on purpose throughout war to literal sabotage
Failed at coalescing anything out of south veitnam
Never crossed the border
Probably was for the better though in a way

2018-10-23 12:48:38 UTC  

We did not commit to the war

2018-10-23 12:48:49 UTC  

Victory for us would mean a quick war

2018-10-23 12:49:03 UTC  

The longer we took to come to full strength the worse it was for us

2018-10-23 12:49:45 UTC  

If we had attacked in full strength and quickly overrun the north focusing on taking important locations rather than bodies we would have done a lot better

2018-10-23 13:25:07 UTC  

Yeah well those fucking vietcongs with their jungles and boobytraps

2018-10-23 13:25:32 UTC  

hahaha

2018-10-23 13:25:33 UTC  

booby

2018-10-23 13:25:35 UTC  

ahahahahhahaa

2018-10-23 17:57:09 UTC  

boobs

2018-10-23 19:05:40 UTC  

@Obungus I mean, occupying the North wouldnt have been such a good idea with the whole guerrilla warfare and all

2018-10-23 19:05:47 UTC  

It was a pointless war

2018-10-23 19:06:12 UTC  

South Vietnam wasn't really an innocent nation either, they had a leader who was anti-Buddhist before he was taken out.

2018-10-23 19:09:11 UTC  

They never really had a stable government

2018-10-23 19:40:27 UTC  

That's why Vietnam should've been annexed by Rwanda

2018-10-23 19:40:30 UTC  

Much better

2018-10-25 13:32:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/505010892660801536/Screenshot_78.png

2018-10-25 13:33:00 UTC  

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2018-10-25 13:33:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955229227319306/505010902819405824/Screenshot_81.png

2018-10-25 13:33:05 UTC  

was i right in this arguement?

2018-10-25 13:44:59 UTC  

Yeah

2018-10-25 14:44:33 UTC  

What is human nature? Is it selfish? Or is it social? Maybe a bit of both? This seems to be one of the most fundamental questions when it comes to evaluating the philosophy and political system of Karl Marx. What exactly is human nature, and can it be changed?

Given that ‘post-capitalist’ ideas are growing more popular (particularly in Europe in the wake of the Great Recession), we’ve launched a series looking at the legacy of one of the most influential anti-capitalists in history: Karl Marx.

2018-10-25 14:44:53 UTC  

May 2018 will mark the 200th anniversary of the birth of Karl Marx, and February 2018 will be the 170th anniversary of the publication of the Communist Manifesto. To mark these dates, Debating Europe is launching a series of online discussions dedicated to examining the impact and legacy of Marx and his writings. 

We had a comment from Eva, arguing that communism could never work in practice (at least, in a capitalism system). So, is communism just a nice idea that’s never been implemented properly? Or is the very notion flawed from the start?

To get a response, we put Eva’s comment to Vladimir Tismăneanu, Professor of Politics and Director of the Center for the Study of Post-communist Societies at the University of Maryland (College Park), and a prominent critic of Marxism. What would he say?

2018-10-25 14:45:40 UTC  

"Eva makes a comment I hear quite frequently from my undergrads and graduate students, and I think we have to take it quite seriously. The communist project was fundamentally an economic, social, intellectual, moral, and civilisational project. The idea was not only to defeat capitalism economically, but to defeat capitalism and all the other previous social formulations, from slavery to the bourgeois domination; to create a new anthropological species. For Karl Marx, this was the mandate of the global proletarian revolution."

2018-10-25 14:45:53 UTC  

For another perspective, we put the same comment to Charles Post, Professor of Sociology at Borough of Manhattan Community College-CUNY. How would he respond?

2018-10-25 14:46:21 UTC  

"If by ‘communism’ she means a non-capitalist economy, where there is collective social ownership of industry, commerce, etc., and there is a planned economy, I think, in fact, it can work. But there have to be two conditions, both of which were lacking in most of the societies that called themselves ‘socialist’ or ‘communist’.

The first is some level of material prosperity, so that people would have free time, etc. This didn’t exist in Russia in the aftermath of the Russian revolution, or in most of the countries that had experienced so-called transformations.

The other is that there has to be real democracy for working people. There has to be a multiplicity of political parties, free speech, free elections, etc. so that people can democratically discuss, debate, and correct planning decisions, etc. So, I think that the problem is that it was never implemented in societies where there was enough of a social surplus product that people had leisure time to engage in a really democratic political structure that has to surround any sort of socialist or post-capitalist world."

2018-10-25 14:46:26 UTC  

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2018-10-25 14:47:46 UTC  

This is actually a presentation that I will have to learn by heart

2018-10-25 14:47:53 UTC  

I'll go to a political meeting.

2018-10-25 14:47:59 UTC  

Do you think it's good?

2018-10-25 14:53:27 UTC  

@Koninos It's good overall, but you make the same mistake as all politicians do

2018-10-25 14:53:47 UTC  

Not being assertive enough

2018-10-25 14:54:25 UTC  

*Oh, so I can fit as a politician*

2018-10-25 14:54:34 UTC  

*Vote Koninos as president*

2018-10-25 14:54:37 UTC  

*2020*

2018-10-25 14:54:46 UTC  

Being on the 'defensive', or in your case, even entertaining the idea of communism and trying to explain why it's not working

2018-10-25 14:55:11 UTC  

2024, I'm going to run for office in my city