Message from @woz
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I dont know, my English isnt the best yet anyway
You should believe in your spirit
depends on how your approach your *spirits*
The spirit of a thing is the essence of it
not a single philosophy of the world seem to have an issue with being both an intelligent and individual spiritual being, and those who find the *spirit* to be merely an outcome of physically cooperating body parts cant disagree either
The spirit of a hammer if you believe in it is the understated purpose. Anything hammer like would be a hammer
For a car is that too
that's logically flawed
For a man the spirit is the spirit of man
you're discussing ideas
and ideas may vary, at least in theory, indifinetely amongst themselves
A car is a car in its totality is not the engine nor the wheels but the totality
It has a purpose
there are infinite amount of ideas and calling somebody an avatar of idea of "human" is something poorly precised
I cant define what a flower exactly is.
I can define the purpose of specific parts that make up a flower
Anything that does what a car does could be considered a car
it is a recursive scheme of defining a global variable
not really
Yes you can define a flower
But there is also an spirit of the flower
in dont believe in spirits, I could only relate to *ideas*
in a plato's sort of way
It’s only a paradox from a logical perspective.
```that raises the question of whether a ship—standing for an object in general—that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object. ```
Spirit is the essence of the thing
"ship—standing for an object"
"that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object. "
it doesnt remain the same
and thinking otherwise is a flawed concept
Spirit wise it does
idea-wise it does
it represents a physical form of an idea
of a ship that is defined as:
"...."
that performs actions such as:
"..."
it is an object of a class
like in programming or mathematics
you could define ideas as some sort of more or less narrow classes for objects
and a physical object would define a class that isnt physically existing
the thing about is that classes may be infinite, as many you can think of
Yes you could say that but no need to do programming
```This theory states that two ships, while identical in all other ways, are not identical if they exist at two different times. Each ship-at-time is a unique "event". So even without replacement of parts, the ships in the harbour are different at each time```
also nothing really new, I had the same idea reading just a sci-fi novel 6 years ago
The classes were set by the creator himself