You're not taking this as I've meant it

yet, I'm sure that you'll argue

that the US shouldn't make attempts to deport white atheists

even though the advice is not to elect them

now, you're gonna tell me , this statement doesn't just apply to gov positions

but applies to all kind of power

such as power held by the rich

hollywood etc

Well, it's not like I really meant the quote and its philosophy in any way to be subject to this stuff anyway

and that those who are in hollywood , industry, and finance are also our "rulers"

that's a stretch that I don't accept

for the obvious reason

as it would fly in the face of the rest of americana

>is assuming my entire argument after I've said what he's arguing against isn't what I said

and would go agaisnt the other founding fathers

ok, what is your argument with that quote?

Well, you agreed that so long as countries are more than 3/4ths white, then there is no real problem. As Jay said, the people and government of the US were basically made for each other. Taking this in a broad stroke first, the people and government are the same. __For him__, does that include Jews? I'm sure it did. But remember also what I've said of international Jews and average Jews. You may be Jewish, but you certainly don't seem to be of the same mind as George Soros and others. I would say there are ingroup preferences at play, as you've even alluded to your own ingroup preferences.

The philosophy is that a government should not be ethnically different from its people. For Jay, did that include Jews? Yes. Does it for really anyone of the camp I am in? No

The philosophy is the same, regardless of who you're including. The difference is where the line is drawn

There are also "international" goyim

equally wrong

the most important part of your statement

is that you simply won't consider me part of intrinsic fabric of the nation

and since you believe it must be ruled by that fabric and for that fabric alone, I'm not welcome

Ethnostates throughout history have had small minorities

They are just especially small

And I don't think you would/should hold office

you tell me of my "ingroup preferences", where you're alluding to me prefering a jewish spouse

typos because I haven't slept yet

since yesterday

all good

but you're now going beyond our agreed criteria of >3/4s white

you're now designating jews as nonwhite, restricting any given nonwhite minority to a certain threshhold and then preventing them from holding office

you've went way beyond what Israel does

and beyond what I'd like to see it do

the ingroup preference is much stronger on your end

I don't deny that it is. Ingroup preferences historically arise as a response. Knowing whites will become a minority is a warning for soemthing bad, which you agreed to. In this way, whites -- as well as all ethnicities -- should seek to not be minorities.

how does classifying jews as nonwhite and restricting them from office optimal to that goal?

It's more so in response to the doings and opinions of international Jews

if you're creating policy as we go

why not just create a policy which prevents the "international" action

just write in a law about maintaining a certain demographic threshhold