Message from @Reeves !Musicbot

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2018-06-20 00:48:45 UTC  

about child marriage?

2018-06-20 00:49:26 UTC  

yes

2018-06-20 00:49:42 UTC  

cause there's a big difference between someone marrying someone they love at 17 and a 10 year old being forced to abandon school and marry a 30 year old man

2018-06-20 00:50:04 UTC  

my grandmother married my grandfather at age 10 and theyve got one of the best relationships ive ever seen

2018-06-20 00:50:41 UTC  

but there's a huge, huge amount of times where the relationship isnt happy

2018-06-20 00:50:54 UTC  

where the girl is forced to abandon school and everything she's worked for

2018-06-20 00:50:57 UTC  

most of the time this is for other reasons

2018-06-20 00:51:08 UTC  

beaten, raped, have children against her will, etc

2018-06-20 00:51:28 UTC  

that is not an issue exclusive to child marriage

2018-06-20 00:51:59 UTC  

no but those issues are common in child marriage in the 3rd world

2018-06-20 00:52:05 UTC  

>3rd world

2018-06-20 00:52:23 UTC  

there is a lot more too it than their marriages being arranged at a young age

2018-06-20 00:53:35 UTC  

well yeah but it often goes together

2018-06-20 00:53:53 UTC  

@shlendie You’re conflating issues that might happen in third world countries and the marriage itself

2018-06-20 00:53:56 UTC  

correlation isnt causation

2018-06-20 00:53:59 UTC  

exactly

2018-06-20 00:54:13 UTC  

these issues arent exclusive to child marriage, and certainly arent because of it

2018-06-20 00:54:22 UTC  

its immoral the child wasnt in puberty yet

2018-06-20 00:54:38 UTC  

why is it immoral to arrange a marriage before puberty?

2018-06-20 00:54:46 UTC  

you are not forcefully fucking a child

2018-06-20 00:54:50 UTC  

it is just a marriage arrangement

2018-06-20 00:55:03 UTC  

I don’t think it’s right or healthy, but it isn’t rape

2018-06-20 00:55:16 UTC  

and consummation traditionally (where im from, at least) waits until after puberty

2018-06-20 00:55:35 UTC  

perhaps it is different in third world shit holes in the sand box

2018-06-20 00:55:54 UTC  

but i certainly dont support pedophilia

2018-06-20 00:57:46 UTC  

I think it’s a life affecting decision and the child isn’t developed enough to make responsible decisions

2018-06-20 00:58:40 UTC  

marriage is not the child's decision alone

2018-06-20 00:58:55 UTC  

No, but it requires their input

2018-06-20 00:58:57 UTC  

develpement isnt the issue its sexual developement

2018-06-20 00:59:06 UTC  

I personally was just talking about young girls being forced to marry a stranger against their will and not being able to escape in the 3rd world

2018-06-20 00:59:09 UTC  

humans dont fully developed untill 25

2018-06-20 00:59:39 UTC  

At a certain point people are able to have forethought and plan for the far future

2018-06-20 00:59:50 UTC  

A child can’t do that

2018-06-20 01:00:08 UTC  

marriage is also seen differently in places where arranged marriages are common

2018-06-20 01:00:59 UTC  

@Reeves !Musicbot you said you werent from armerica where are you from?

2018-06-20 01:01:12 UTC  

where i live marriage is not just about love, but also to maintain family status and wealth, and to bring another generation

2018-06-20 01:01:29 UTC  

i live in russia, murmansk oblast

2018-06-20 01:01:40 UTC  

well this is the west

2018-06-20 01:01:42 UTC  

Even with the prevalence of divorces, I still think that marriage is something someone should do once with the intention of a family

2018-06-20 01:01:47 UTC  

we dont marry children here

2018-06-20 01:01:56 UTC  

but you used to, friend