Message from @εïз irma εïз
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It doesnt matter if YOU think theyre clueless
Alright, if YOU think some random article is worth anything since you can't formulate your own arguments, I'll start posting articles.
"Going by what communism – as defined by Karl Marx – has meant traditionally, Professor Shaun Breslin from the University of Warwick would struggle to label modern day China as communist, mostly because the country’s objectives have little to do with class.
“The Communist Party is there to deliver what they deem to be national goals and priorities and objectives, so there’s no class-based analysis at the heart of this,” he said.
“A lot of traditional Marxists would say once you start and finish with the nation, it’s something else. It’s a form of, I don’t want to call it national socialism because of the connotations with different nations and eras, but it is about… these people’s perceptions of the national good, rather than the class good.”
“That’s why I don’t think you can consider it to be anything that traditional communists would necessarily recognise, although that doesn’t mean it can’t be a form of socialism,” he added."
"However, if you look at the Gini coefficient - Wikipedia, you will find that China has a much higher ranking on gc than the vast majority of Capitalist countries, which means China has a much higher disparity between the rich and the poor. (China Income Inequality Among World’s Worst) According to Karl Marx, the founder of Communism theory, Communism would be the cooperative society based on common ownership of the means of production. In this sense, China is no where near a typical Communist country.
In reality, it boiled down to this, CPC's self claimed “socialism with Chinese characteristics” is de facto Crony capitalism - Wikipedia regardless of what you call."
"Communism is defined by workers owning the means of production and, as such has traditionally stood in opposition to capitalist systems where industry is controlled by private owners for profit."
Im going to do exactly what you did
and go back to the original conversation
"Simply put, a dose of decentralization and incentives introduced into a communist system unleashed people’s animal spirits for wealth creation that turned China into the world’s second largest economy.
Going forward, China needs much more than a dose of incentives. It needs the economic freedom to innovate, and that requires a pro-market regime nurtured by a premarket political party.
That’s why it’s time for the CCP to consider changing its name in the upcoming 19th party Congress."
because im too lazy to defend my case again
Yeah, you've repeatedly shown that.
You did it aswell dumbass
You have no clue what you're talking about.
When?
You told me
russia is european only
im not the clueless one
Then when I proved it wrong
you hopped out of the conversation
I said to categorize it as Asian on any grounds but geographic would be silly, not that it was exclusively a European country.
And you have to be braindead to think that's something worth arguing over.
And at the end I told you it was Asian to shut you up.
Its eruasian
c o m m o n s e n s e
Okay. Semantics. I think I can handle being proven "wrong" about if Russia is European, Asian, or Eurasian.
And categorizing something as "common sense" doesn't help your argument when you talk out of your ass.
You look like a fucking imbecile.
Am I the one constantly cursing and condescending to prove my case?
<#452955195542863883> civility please
You can dish it out but you can't take it?
FInally
I should remind you that it was you who initially resorted to insults.
Someone not rude
But now we can all be civil.
<#452955195542863883> please
That's the plan.
Actually
You started the rudeness
Do you understand the context of the Maoist revolution and why abandoning pretense of communism would be harmful to China's geopolitical goals and thus they have no reason to claim they are anything but communist despite transitioning to capitalism four decades ago?
Yes or no question.
The government Mao overthrew still exists.