Message from @Doctor Anon

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2018-07-26 10:08:23 UTC  

I would argue that Elephants, and Some primates and Cetaceans are also capable of sentiency

2018-07-26 10:08:42 UTC  

I *heavily* disagree

2018-07-26 10:08:58 UTC  

They are capable of basic consciousness, i submit that

2018-07-26 10:09:12 UTC  

But sentience on the level of Humans? No.

2018-07-26 10:09:18 UTC  

Studies have shown Cetaceans may be capable of more intellegence then humans

2018-07-26 10:09:28 UTC  

Based off the fact they have more complex and larger brains

2018-07-26 10:09:34 UTC  

Wow

2018-07-26 10:09:45 UTC  

You really dont know biology if you claim thay

2018-07-26 10:09:57 UTC  

Complex Brains are not linked to intelligence

2018-07-26 10:10:23 UTC  

Brain size is wholly detached from intelligence

2018-07-26 10:10:29 UTC  

"Are Whales Smarter Than We Are? Cetacean brains, such as those of dolphins (left) and humpback whales (right), have even more cortical convolutions and surface area than human brains do."

2018-07-26 10:10:56 UTC  

By that logic Sperm Whales are the most intelligent form of life

2018-07-26 10:11:04 UTC  

They have the largest brains

2018-07-26 10:11:20 UTC  

Which is clearly untrue

2018-07-26 10:11:32 UTC  

Sperm whales have the largest brain... *not what I said*

2018-07-26 10:11:39 UTC  

Read any study, for the love of god, brain area does not correlate with intelligence

2018-07-26 10:11:47 UTC  

"Are Whales Smarter Than We Are? Cetacean brains, such as those of dolphins (left) and humpback whales (right), have even more cortical convolutions and surface area than human brains do."

2018-07-26 10:11:48 UTC  

it makes no sense that sperm whales would develop an intelligent brain

2018-07-26 10:12:11 UTC  

like at best they would be on par with dolphins but developing an incredibly complex brain like humans would just be a waste

2018-07-26 10:12:49 UTC  

Doliphins are capable of emotion, and communication

2018-07-26 10:13:02 UTC  

And it is indeed proven that the human brain alone is the most complex *thing* in the *universe*.

2018-07-26 10:13:14 UTC  

I seriously doubt that

2018-07-26 10:13:16 UTC  

i'd disagree with you there

2018-07-26 10:13:24 UTC  

because you cant compare a brain to a star

2018-07-26 10:13:36 UTC  

Complexity is subjective

2018-07-26 10:13:38 UTC  

it's just like comparing apples to rocks

2018-07-26 10:14:16 UTC  

Complexity is how humans look at it

2018-07-26 10:14:17 UTC  

Im arguing there is no animals as or more intelligent as humans @L0GAN

2018-07-26 10:14:28 UTC  

I can agree with that

2018-07-26 10:14:33 UTC  

But

2018-07-26 10:14:39 UTC  

I dont care about intelligence relative to humans, i care about intelligence on par with humans

2018-07-26 10:14:48 UTC  

animals are capable of being sentient and intellegent in ways similar to humans

2018-07-26 10:14:57 UTC  

to what degree?

2018-07-26 10:15:17 UTC  

Highest of a human toddler or a young child

2018-07-26 10:15:27 UTC  

mourning the death of young, Communication

2018-07-26 10:15:38 UTC  

Humans are *undeniably* the most intelligent

2018-07-26 10:15:45 UTC  

not even toddlers understand mourning over death

2018-07-26 10:16:14 UTC  

@Doctor Anon The most intellegent species that **Humans** know about

2018-07-26 10:16:44 UTC  

oh dont give me that "oh but what if there isnt something we didnt discover" bullshit

2018-07-26 10:16:50 UTC  

Once its discovered then we can argue on it

2018-07-26 10:16:58 UTC  

Heres another debate, Is god human?