Message from @εïз irma εïз
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also ginasfs
Wrong
It's gay
Campodin cannot even explain the basic ideas he's attempting to articulate, he would rather call me an idiot.
How is the MOP redistributed in social programs?
it's not great but it's not gay
@εïз irma εïз capital is the means of production. If you are taking it from one person and giving it to another it is being redistributed
says the commie who can't formulate a formidible counter argument and instead goes on the offensive
No, that's fruits of labor.
🤦
Look at the word. Means. Of. Production.
Basic example is a factory.
The capitalist controls the factory, not the worker.
The fruits of labor come from the factory.
Means of production =/= Capital
@εïз irma εïз how do they get the factory? First by having capitol
And?
How does this make sense at all?
No, it's an apple.
The factory is the MOP, the factory is not capital.
The factory is wealth
You have an extremely basic misunderstanding of the words you're using that could be rectified with a simple Google search.
It is directly translatable into capitol
Took me less than a second to Google that.
You are simply wrong.
how is money the means of production but not factories 🤔🤔🤔
I never said they weren't @ham addition
The entire dichotomy between socialism and capitalism is that in socialism the MOP (factories for example) are owned "socially" (by the workers) and in capitalism the MOP (factories) are owned by capitalists who extract surplus labor from the proletariat.
but money isn't the means of production
It literally has nothing to do with the fruits of labor being translatable to capital.
also spelling capital as capitol pisses me off
when ur wrong so u just call people an idiot 🔥 👌 😂 👌 🔥
I called you an idiot for saying I said the same thing
From my perspective you were saying it was the same thing, and from your perspective you were mistaken in the words you were using which caused me to misunderstand what you were actually trying to say.
You're wrong either way.
good point
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