Message from @campodin
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@campodin excuse zexy, he's a special breed of commie
The worker doesn't own the means of production in social programs nor is the means of production "redistributed". What the fuck does this even mean?
@Doctor Anon I've noticed
socialism is definitely a political
also ginasfs
Wrong
It's gay
Campodin cannot even explain the basic ideas he's attempting to articulate, he would rather call me an idiot.
How is the MOP redistributed in social programs?
it's not great but it's not gay
@εïз irma εïз capital is the means of production. If you are taking it from one person and giving it to another it is being redistributed
says the commie who can't formulate a formidible counter argument and instead goes on the offensive
No, that's fruits of labor.
🤦
Look at the word. Means. Of. Production.
Basic example is a factory.
The capitalist controls the factory, not the worker.
The fruits of labor come from the factory.
Means of production =/= Capital
And?
How does this make sense at all?
I buy an apple with money. Is the apple money now?
No, it's an apple.
The factory is the MOP, the factory is not capital.
The factory is wealth
You have an extremely basic misunderstanding of the words you're using that could be rectified with a simple Google search.
It is directly translatable into capitol
Took me less than a second to Google that.
You are simply wrong.
how is money the means of production but not factories 🤔🤔🤔
I never said they weren't @ham addition
The entire dichotomy between socialism and capitalism is that in socialism the MOP (factories for example) are owned "socially" (by the workers) and in capitalism the MOP (factories) are owned by capitalists who extract surplus labor from the proletariat.
but money isn't the means of production
It literally has nothing to do with the fruits of labor being translatable to capital.
also spelling capital as capitol pisses me off
I called you an idiot for saying I said the same thing