Message from @Bogatyr Bogumir
Discord ID: 488391150668087307
To jay
your answer fits my question
But also to Zeigler.
lol are you 14? pretty sure those arent difficult concepts
Soviets are most dedicated to their state
lmfao
thats 1. impossible to prove and 2. history proves its wrong
no it's very easy to prove
The only time Soviets were dedicated to the state was when the personality cult of Stalin was forced down their throat and simultaneously they were being brutally invaded.
the Soviets at the top were not even ethnic Russians
@Jay1532 Have you ever been to Russia or?
I don't think so
they dismantled the state they belonged to, killed its former leaders, and then killed millions of its people
Yeah, afaik they are only loyal to personality cults
russia isnt soviet anymore???
Zeiglar is right
in terms of the history of communism in russia
loyalty was never part of the equation
the Soviets were subverters
@Jay1532 Lots of its citizens are still loyal to the soviets even if they are gone
ok? thats just rose-tinted glasses
because Russians are a race of fucking brainlet peasants
@Bogatyr Bogumir I'm not talking about their ideology
The pan-socialist quasinationalism that the Soviets tried to force on the republics and the rest of the Warsaw Pact was almost completely rejected.
I'm not talking about ideology either
the fact is that they weren't Russians, they subverted Russia
and they dont look fondly on marxism, they look back fondly on imperialism
they had a huge geography under their hegemony
Because they remember the glory days of rivaling american supremacy
I know, Id say people were loyal to the idea of the great soviet Russia, this mythical ethereal spirit of the russian people, that simply took on a new name. The loyalty was there during the war, however afterwards its hard to say they were particularly loyal.
you think they like that, or bread lines
lol
then what the fuck are you talking about "soviet loyalty"???
so loyal to bread lines im sure
Soviet nostalgia is rooted in nationalism, not actually liking the Soviet Union. If the transition to democracy wasn't completely fucked by Yeltsin there would be next to no nostalgia for the Soviet Union today.
they went from being an arguably great sized empire
yeah