@el pebble Thats just simply abuse. mostly kids need reason and direct feedback but some kids ltierally need physicla force. Its just the character you happen to be dealing with

it is your responsibility to check whether they treat you seriously or not

@el pebble I got beat with rose stems a slap is nothing, at least use a belt on them time to time

No it's more like beating your kids doesn't discipline them

some very dumb kids might need physical punishment, but it should be restricted

Do you want to foster integrity or fear of punishment

it is, however that means also demanding they do so. If they fail to do so in minor ways they need to know their bullshit wont fly.

Idiots

@el pebble both debil

demokratia, I met some people who told to act differently would never listen, but beaten in the face magically changed their attitude towards me

its fucking magic, isnt it

Personally I think public embarrassment would be the most effective

Beating into submission doesn't discipline

some people are just a specific character, overuse of physical force is never good and applying to much both simply fall under abuse

It isn't about just telling them either

It isnt beating into submission

it is disciplining some fucking human trash that thinks too high of themselves

Pick up your kid in a crop top and Speedos with sunglasses and and a fedora to embarrass him

Yeah they totally suddenly learned to act different when hit

You guys are pussies

when most of kids can still be just punished and taught to act differently

lol, shoes and sandles -> perfect punishment

some people in general are too old for that

@Doctor Anon that's based

@el pebble yes it does, my older brother was beaten with a belt __daily__ for about 3 years and weekly for another 5

if violence didnt work at changing someones nature or capacities the military wouldnt use the multiple forms of violence they employ to change recruits behaviours.

He's extremely obedient and respectful to everyone

Thanks for telling me that your brother was abused

well, there is a difference in between making a person a puppet for you to obey and in between teaching somebody

He's probably so traumatized now

@el pebble a belt isn't abused

It's a fucking belt

Any kind of physical trauma when your brain. Is developing messes you up

and mental trauma doesnt lel

@el pebble I'm fine, my brother is fine

You're definitely not fine

Weird fuck

think of those traumatized kids who got traumatized due to your little shit's misbehaviour

He's making a good income, I'm taking college next semester alongside school

it isnt just that easy

true, but still the idea of the violence the military uses is to change someones barriers and thinking. It works, hell they wouldnt use it otherwise.

Most people in eastern euro were raised with some form of physical punishment, i also remember my dads belt. He only had to use it once or twice because i am naturally loyal.