Message from @Yeb.

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2018-06-01 06:20:24 UTC  

Just look at Persia or the Romans and Britain and France today.

2018-06-01 06:20:41 UTC  

@Acrumen Would economic imperialism and proxy wars continue in a fascist world

2018-06-01 06:21:19 UTC  

Fascism by definition always try to make the nation economically independant

2018-06-01 06:21:59 UTC  

yeah no, economic imperialism hurts the people at home and it hurts the other people overseas

2018-06-01 06:22:01 UTC  

wars would definitely continue in the extreme fascism i am talking about, the fascism you believe in, well i believe war is still a possibility

2018-06-01 06:22:10 UTC  

proxy wars are fucking stupid

2018-06-01 06:22:24 UTC  

Well so is imperialism

2018-06-01 06:22:26 UTC  

you have to remember, most of us aren't capitalists

2018-06-01 06:22:46 UTC  

Idk I run into a lot of capitalists

2018-06-01 06:22:48 UTC  

exploiting cheap labor overseas for example hurts the people at home

2018-06-01 06:22:48 UTC  

Tbh

2018-06-01 06:22:54 UTC  

thats good though

2018-06-01 06:22:58 UTC  

Suggesting there could be an end to war is ridiculous

2018-06-01 06:23:06 UTC  

yeah its always a possibility

2018-06-01 06:23:14 UTC  

theres no such thing as a utopia

2018-06-01 06:23:19 UTC  

Aemon raises a good point

2018-06-01 06:23:24 UTC  

Conflict is natural and you can't win against nature

2018-06-01 06:23:30 UTC  

^

2018-06-01 06:23:42 UTC  

there will always be some sort of conflict

2018-06-01 06:23:45 UTC  

you might be able to eliminate pointless wars, but war will always happen

2018-06-01 06:24:01 UTC  

I don’t really follow this mantra that all humans are always evil and greedy

2018-06-01 06:24:03 UTC  

yep

2018-06-01 06:24:10 UTC  

i don't follow the mantra either

2018-06-01 06:24:15 UTC  

Today most are

2018-06-01 06:24:19 UTC  

neither do I

2018-06-01 06:24:21 UTC  

incorrect

2018-06-01 06:24:28 UTC  

but all rational actors will act in their own interests

2018-06-01 06:24:37 UTC  

as i have convinced even the most hardcore capitalists to consider my ideology

2018-06-01 06:24:37 UTC  

which can conflict with the interests of others

2018-06-01 06:24:41 UTC  

But that's because their cultures have been destroyed and they have nothing left but the material

2018-06-01 06:24:43 UTC  

Like I would argue that if you take some people and put them in a tribe in the wild they would absolutely work together in harmony

2018-06-01 06:24:43 UTC  

this is how wars start

2018-06-01 06:25:21 UTC  

yep

2018-06-01 06:25:50 UTC  

If you force two tribe to share the same land there will be a war

2018-06-01 06:26:49 UTC  

eh i believe people can just co exist either by coming to some sort of agreement or some other way

2018-06-01 06:27:56 UTC  

all that is nice until you remember that resources and land are finite

2018-06-01 06:28:03 UTC  

Only people of the same culture will share the same goals and mannerisms

2018-06-01 06:28:19 UTC  

so when tribe A which lives peacefully alongside tribe B starts to starve and sees that tribe B has plenty of food

2018-06-01 06:28:31 UTC  

visualize my surprise when tribe A gets a little jealous

2018-06-01 06:28:34 UTC  

I got to say though, low key I fucking hate *most* of the lefts take on pc bs

2018-06-01 06:28:59 UTC  

MLMs especially form this cult like personality that really fucking ticks me off