Message from @Hamburger Guy

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2019-04-06 20:22:43 UTC  

the mass increase so does the volume, however the increase in mass is much much less than the increase in mass would be if you were to fill the balloons with air

2019-04-06 20:23:07 UTC  

that doesn't matter

2019-04-06 20:23:18 UTC  

it could be infinitely less

2019-04-06 20:23:32 UTC  

as long as the ratio stays the same...

2019-04-06 20:24:46 UTC  

Which it obviously does if the helium balloons are identical.

2019-04-06 20:25:43 UTC  

Air has a density of about 1.2kg/m^3, however helium at room temperature at standard air pressure is about 0.164kg/m^3 and hydrogen is lower about 0.1kg/m^3

2019-04-06 20:26:00 UTC  

So for each meter cubed of helium you are adding you can lift about 1kg

2019-04-06 20:26:20 UTC  

Are we changing the subject ok then

2019-04-06 20:26:21 UTC  

So when you have about 100 m^3 of helium you should be able to lift a man

2019-04-06 20:26:28 UTC  

Which law is this?

2019-04-06 20:26:37 UTC  

Archimdedes principle

2019-04-06 20:26:38 UTC  

First law

2019-04-06 20:26:46 UTC  

We are still one that?

2019-04-06 20:26:47 UTC  

F = pVg

2019-04-06 20:26:54 UTC  

p = density

2019-04-06 20:26:59 UTC  

V = volume

2019-04-06 20:27:04 UTC  

g = gravity

2019-04-06 20:27:09 UTC  

Can you really lift a man?

2019-04-06 20:27:22 UTC  

@Ivan Pavlovich What's gravity?

2019-04-06 20:27:32 UTC  

1. CHANGING THE DENSITY OF THE BODY: https://imgur.com/a/uIY067X

2019-04-06 20:27:34 UTC  

all flight is based on lift

2019-04-06 20:27:41 UTC  

No it's not

2019-04-06 20:27:46 UTC  

The thing that facilitates the phenomenon you mentioned

2019-04-06 20:27:58 UTC  

And what would that be please?

2019-04-06 20:27:58 UTC  

most that is

2019-04-06 20:28:26 UTC  

Downwards force, as pointed out in the diagram you posted

2019-04-06 20:28:42 UTC  

Yeah Archimedes didn't use gravity

2019-04-06 20:28:49 UTC  

So I don't know what your point is

2019-04-06 20:29:00 UTC  

See that downwards arrow?

2019-04-06 20:29:04 UTC  

tbh me neither

2019-04-06 20:29:07 UTC  

ignore that

2019-04-06 20:29:17 UTC  

See that upwards arrow?

2019-04-06 20:29:24 UTC  

Yes.

2019-04-06 20:29:34 UTC  

Yeah exactly

2019-04-06 20:29:51 UTC  

So you admit to a downwards force and a normal force?

2019-04-06 20:29:57 UTC  

So as you can see you can modify the direction and rate of acceleration by changing your density

2019-04-06 20:30:08 UTC  

@Ivan Pavlovich force is mass times acceleration is it?

2019-04-06 20:30:09 UTC  

yes?

2019-04-06 20:30:14 UTC  

NET acceleration

2019-04-06 20:30:21 UTC  

What does this have to do with balloons and more importantly gravity