@AstralSentient i tried, he can't visualize a tangent, vs a line taht follows the globe surface

In the globe model

I think his last question nails it for me

*ur telling me ifthe new york guy and the guy in brazil walk straight toward that point their paths would never cross ?*

That point where the sun rises on the equinox

@jeremy Do you understand now/

And the answer is, they would cross in millions of miles but at the start they are pretty much parallel, the convergence is too slight on the earth in the globe model that they start off visually parallel

For observers looking at the sun

Oh, and that sorta assumes the sun is a point source, but it would be much larger than the earth technically, but whatever

On a flat earth, each person would have to have a sun of their own east of them, sorta like a rainbow maybe.

the guy in brazil and the guy in ny are walking toward the same point how do they not intersect each other at some point

thats crazy

we arent talkin flat earth just the globe

if 2 people in different areas walk to the same point they wont intersect thats ur logic ?

Well, theoretically, I could just say they won't intersect, cause why not?
Have a problem with it?

it doesnt make sense at all

if im on the left side of the street and u are on the right side and we both walk towards a stop sign would we intersect ?

They would meet into a giant sun 93 million miles away, the convergence would be so slight, and those lines would just run parallel into the same sun anyways

well hold on

the sun is rising at the equator east for everyone we can put a stop sign up ont he equator where it happens then the guy in ny and the guy in brazil both walk to the stop sign

Kk

thats the whole thing lol

they are both gonna intersect

no?

Ok, now imagine that stop sign is hundreds of miles away, and the people only say 20 feet apart, they walk and eventually meet the stop sign, they are pretty much walking parallel because the convergence is too slight to notice at the start.

but it converges

Yes, but the parallax is so slight between the observers that it is pretty much in the same direction relative to both of them

they arent 20 feet apart ones in new york ones in brazil

Even if 100 feet, the scale would be like hundreds of miles if we are to try to make an analogy

im making a real world prediction the sun is rising at the equator im gonna put a stop sign there at the equator at the moment of sunrise so its blocking the sun so now both the people in new york and brazil are looking at the sun and the stop sign

the both walk east to the stop sign

do they intersect

?

yes or no

I'll say no, because it is simpler

what

2 people in different locations walking toward the same spot dont intersect that is simpler ?

Yes

hi

The sun isn't behaving like that anyways. On a globe, it is millions of miles out.
In the Jeranism diagram, they assume the sun is right there on the equator when according to the model, it is out in space

i told u we are gonna put a stop sign up at the point of sunrise