https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKEpL_CbVHU

Whoozies, those are some choppy seas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbUOeOan8Po

u want more video of boats being brought back into view ?

how many videos do u want

The third one doesn't do that btw, the person has to go higher to get more of the ship.

ok so u want more?

No, I'm fine with what is here

u sure their is tons of them

boats disappear over the curve but then the cam can zoom in and bring them back into view

thats how it works

its not even a debate stand at the shore watch a boat go out to sea when u cant see it anymore u can pull out a good camera with a good zoom and bring the ship back into view

Yet your third source shows the opposite, meaning it doesn't always happen that way. Only when it is in front of the horizon and zoomed out

?

i was just pullin random videos off youtube their is tons of them

so u want one to replace the third one ?

lol

cmon astral

It proves the sinking ship effect hasn't been debunked because it has been observed.

it proves that when u watch a ship go out to sea and watch it disappear bottom first its not going over the curve cause u can zoom in and see the ship still after it has fully disappeared

i mean u can do it at the beach go watch a ship sail out it will disappear pull out ur camera and you can bring the boat back into view

i dont think anyone is debating that anymore

thats an observable fact

Yes, you can do that, but once it passes the horizon line, it doesn't work anymore

that was the proof though before there was telescopes or zoom cameras

And we still observe that with optics

it wont work anymore becuase u cant see forever they heliocentric model has u gassed up thinkin u can see forever

u think u can see 300 light years away lol

polaris

It doesn't have anything to do with seeing forever. Just that when ships go out to sea, they reach a cutoff point and start to appear to sink.
The examples of bringing them back is just when it is far away but still in front of the horizon and the angular resolution has it unresolved so you need to zoom in to get a full view. But once you get a full view, you wait, and it starts dropping bottom first.

yes just like it did when u were watching it with no optics becuase even the zoom camera cant see forever

Not when it is in full resolved view, there is no reason for it to drop bottom first. It would have to go into a tiny diffracted blur again.
But the horizon cutoff line is too close for that to be the case for the cameras we have today, unfortunately for that explanation.

Well what about when u watch with no camera and it drops bottom first

Idk I feel like boats going over the curve has been debunked that was the proof before telescopes and zoom cameras

The angular resolution of the eye is probably just enough for the horizon at 3 miles at 6 foot observer height, where the angle of view is shallow to the point of the resolution angle.
In other words, just with your eyes, it is very hard to tell.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DirtyLiquidBlackbird-size_restricted.gif

Angular resolution is limited by diffraction. Diffraction is dependent on wavelength and arpeture size, defraction results in image blur, not disappearing of objects bottom first.

Well before we start talking about ships going over a hill of water we should first prove water curves.

Diffraction is also only significant with very large F numbers (extremely small arpeture sizes) or very large distances/objects with very small angular size.

The "sinking ship effect" is supposed to be evidence of water curving

Yeah I know but it’s up for debate so