Message from @AstralSentient

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2019-05-03 09:47:39 UTC  

Just imagine what it's doing to your insides.

2019-05-03 09:49:58 UTC  

Not all waterways are flourinated, and if they are, it's at such minute amounts per/500gal that you'd never, unless allergic, experience any adverse effects FluoriNe, while the most commonly known additive to water, is not the crux of water treatment, more like an post process extra

2019-05-03 09:54:16 UTC  

It's in milk too

2019-05-03 09:57:51 UTC  

And still in minute doses. It's valid to have concerns given Flourine's nature, and seeing reactions to other substances as you displayed above does create the mindset of "what is that doing inside you," and the answer comes down to your digestive fluids don't react in that way to Flourine, and handles it - in the approved and regulated doses - just fine. Milk also isn't, in many regions, government created. There are regulations on safety equipment and minimum standards for making it safe to drink, so flourination is even *less* common, usually reserved for larger dairy corps. So you can avoid the milk worry just fine by locally sourcing your milk from independent dairy farms

2019-05-03 09:59:22 UTC  

But on the subject of water (which is trated in 500 gallon to 1500 gallon tanks in a moderately sized facility), it's not always used. In the United States at least, it really only depends on your region and their local laws

2019-05-03 10:14:26 UTC  

It seems pretty clear to me that you just accept whatever *they* say. Even if fluoride in water wasn't bad for you, why should we be forced to drink it in our water?

2019-05-03 10:16:27 UTC  

It might have seemed like a good idea in the 50s, but it's now coming to light just how bad it is for you.

2019-05-03 10:23:44 UTC  

All of these detriments are based on the idea that individuals are getting over the agreed limits. One, that is controlled fairly easily by properly judging how soluble it is and putting and adequate amount for how much water you've used. If that's strictly enforced and your local water system isn't plumbed terribly, accurate estimations of individual dosage aren't that hard to achieve.

And yes, the benefit is dental. I can agree it's not such an enormous benefit in water so as to undeniably say it should be required. Feel free to advocate for stopping fluorine in your water with your local officials. That's your right. I don't think it should be required overall, and I don't live in a region where it is required, and I like this fact

2019-05-03 10:24:12 UTC  

As for accepting whatever "they" say

2019-05-03 10:24:22 UTC  

I am "they," water treatment is my literal job

2019-05-03 10:29:06 UTC  

I just don't drink the water, if the government wants to force me to drink chemicals, I'm never gunna trust them. Who knows what else they'll put in my food or water?

2019-05-03 11:57:33 UTC  

I would want to see evidence of this claim of supposed ill effects of water fluoridation on the public.
There was at least a reference here, will require further look for me

2019-05-03 13:25:20 UTC  

i just think its suspicious they would put chemicals in the water for our teeth, wouldnt you put vitamins in it instead or along with it if you are worried about health? also suspicious is who first suggested to put it in the water, also suspicious is the institute that said it was safe, the mellon institute they also said asbestos was safe.

2019-05-03 13:28:20 UTC  

Seems like almost everything is suspicious to you

2019-05-03 13:28:47 UTC  

nothing i jsut said sounded suspicious to u ?

2019-05-03 13:29:15 UTC  

they are worried about our teeth and why not put vitamins in the water along with or instead

2019-05-03 13:30:01 UTC  

a lot is suspicious to me when we are talking about what the elite or govt do

2019-05-03 13:30:09 UTC  

they do some suspicious stuff

2019-05-03 13:34:42 UTC  

It is all, "Why not do this, why not that, why this", "they could, should"
I don't enough about it to make a claim on what is for the best, I'm mainly interested in the evidence behind the benefits of what is going on now and the claims against it, criticisms

2019-05-03 13:35:14 UTC  

@Etzie we are not forced to drink fluoridated water. Ppl choose it. I drink my water from an artisan well. Takes a bit extra time to go fill up 5 gallon containers but its such good water.

2019-05-03 13:36:27 UTC  

Not all ppl have access to great water like i do

2019-05-03 13:36:38 UTC  

i lived in a place recently wher they voted no to put fluoride int he water

2019-05-03 13:36:55 UTC  

But i imagine there is ways of not drinking fluoridated water

2019-05-03 13:37:50 UTC  

yeah definently

2019-05-03 13:38:02 UTC  

but a lot of people dont know or care or have the means to do it

2019-05-03 13:38:32 UTC  

True

2019-05-03 13:38:49 UTC  

i just personally dont think they should be putting it in the water

2019-05-03 13:38:51 UTC  

In that sense i guess ppl are somewhat forced

2019-05-03 13:39:10 UTC  

Which is sad

2019-05-03 13:39:21 UTC  

you have to buy a filter to filter out the floruide or drink distilled water

2019-05-03 13:39:43 UTC  

i saw b aby water with fluoride in it

2019-05-03 13:39:55 UTC  

baby with no teeth water with fluoride .........

2019-05-03 13:39:56 UTC  

Its like the people who dont have access to better water whether it be because of money or location, are forced to drink what the city gives them

2019-05-03 13:40:23 UTC  

most people could afford distilled water but they tell u thats bad for u

2019-05-03 13:40:40 UTC  

are they telling the truth idk

2019-05-03 13:41:58 UTC  

Your body needs minerals

2019-05-03 13:42:13 UTC  

Live water is best

2019-05-03 13:42:32 UTC  

Water with beneficial bacteria and minerals

2019-05-03 13:46:39 UTC  

You can get mineralz through food also..ive not looked into this much