Message from @Σ5

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2018-09-25 10:29:50 UTC  

i have a text clasification of many species of extinct membders of sauria

2018-09-25 10:30:18 UTC  

im having a bit of problem with pantestudines

2018-09-25 10:30:18 UTC  

I know birds evolved from Dinos

2018-09-25 10:30:38 UTC  

birds are still dinosaurs

2018-09-25 10:30:51 UTC  

But to call them reptiles is needlessly pendantic, and at worst a little disingenuous

2018-09-25 10:30:57 UTC  

under phylogenic clasifification

2018-09-25 10:31:11 UTC  

its not pendantic

2018-09-25 10:31:16 UTC  

its deffinitional

2018-09-25 10:31:31 UTC  

under phylogenic clasification

2018-09-25 10:31:46 UTC  

If you say "birds are lizards" you ignore what differentiates birds from lizards

2018-09-25 10:31:48 UTC  

just like how in science the word theory means something else

2018-09-25 10:31:58 UTC  

i never said birds are lizards

2018-09-25 10:32:10 UTC  

lizards are a subclade of reptile

2018-09-25 10:32:21 UTC  

Apologies

2018-09-25 10:32:29 UTC  

"birds are reptiles"

2018-09-25 10:32:32 UTC  

ye

2018-09-25 10:32:51 UTC  

their features all average out to it being a reptile

2018-09-25 10:33:06 UTC  

being warmblooded was the only reason they got feathers

2018-09-25 10:33:18 UTC  

That's a reach

2018-09-25 10:33:25 UTC  

That's a huge reach

2018-09-25 10:34:03 UTC  

geting feathers and being warm blooded is a strong difrence and would make it effected by difrent natural selective forces

2018-09-25 10:34:22 UTC  

you are bound to get something that looks quite difrent

2018-09-25 10:34:25 UTC  

We don't know why Dino's got feathers yet, but we have a few theories as to why they started flying

2018-09-25 10:34:33 UTC  

ye

2018-09-25 10:34:41 UTC  

teh feather is quite complex

2018-09-25 10:34:49 UTC  

it can only really evolve once

2018-09-25 10:35:01 UTC  

That's not quite true

2018-09-25 10:35:27 UTC  

Eyes in their complexity have evolved several different ways

2018-09-25 10:35:32 UTC  

other dinosaurs had things what weren't really feathers but more like spikes of protofeathers (basicly what baby chicks have)

2018-09-25 10:35:51 UTC  

feathers in there structure

2018-09-25 10:36:17 UTC  

eyes can evolve difrent ways but they are essentially difrent

2018-09-25 10:36:24 UTC  

in the topology and structure

2018-09-25 10:36:32 UTC  

feathers are more unlikely

2018-09-25 10:36:57 UTC  

what i mean is the exact structure

2018-09-25 10:37:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/494095034065616908/220px-Henry_at_Invercargill.jpg

2018-09-25 10:37:19 UTC  

this is not a lizard

2018-09-25 10:37:39 UTC  

its the only remaining line of a sister group of lizards

2018-09-25 10:37:55 UTC  

its also a single genus

2018-09-25 10:38:13 UTC  

it is also the only surviving TRUE diapsid

2018-09-25 10:38:19 UTC  

Yeah I know Henry the Tuatara

2018-09-25 10:38:24 UTC  

ye