Message from @DrPeper

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2018-10-07 04:18:31 UTC  

eh, the german army only sorta turned on them at the end

2018-10-07 04:18:39 UTC  

Nut

2018-10-07 04:18:52 UTC  

There were many coup plots in the Wehrmacht Officer Corps. throughout the war

2018-10-07 04:18:52 UTC  

the point is they did

2018-10-07 04:18:57 UTC  

I've been to several Ice Cream Socials... does that make me a socialist?

2018-10-07 04:19:03 UTC  

July 20 and during Munich were the biggest ones, obviously

2018-10-07 04:19:10 UTC  

only from some of them shmeh

2018-10-07 04:19:17 UTC  

U rite

2018-10-07 04:19:23 UTC  

🤘

2018-10-07 04:19:30 UTC  

I really liked that one

2018-10-07 04:20:04 UTC  

Anyway, the plots only happened when the Reich's lines were thin. All of those rebels were pretty loyal when things looked optimistic.

2018-10-07 04:20:07 UTC  

Go figure.

2018-10-07 04:20:28 UTC  

Wasnt there one about a general who turned on Hitler and evacuated the people of Berlin to the West to surrender to the allies?

2018-10-07 04:20:28 UTC  

well, yeah cause Hitler was an idiot

2018-10-07 04:20:49 UTC  
2018-10-07 04:20:53 UTC  

Hitler was an idiot except his generals thought the fall of Moscow would suddenly defeat the Soviets lmao

2018-10-07 04:21:13 UTC  

and Hitler was an idiot for being in a war with every single world power at once

2018-10-07 04:21:28 UTC  

Pretty sure we both know that's not how it went down

2018-10-07 04:21:35 UTC  

Japan made him double screwed though

2018-10-07 04:21:48 UTC  

hehehehe

2018-10-07 04:22:29 UTC  

Anyway, point is, if some of those Colonels and etc. put as much energy into fighting the Bolshevists as undermining the nation, things might've gone differently.

2018-10-07 04:22:35 UTC  

no

2018-10-07 04:22:37 UTC  

not really

2018-10-07 04:22:53 UTC  

the German Army had some major problems they had to work out to actually win

2018-10-07 04:23:21 UTC  

Like officers who didn't follow orders or . . ?

2018-10-07 04:24:07 UTC  

Well, did you see what happened to Poland when they tried that?

2018-10-07 04:24:09 UTC  

not good

2018-10-07 04:24:10 UTC  

not enough officers, limited manpower, limited reasources, terrible logistic systems, to large a front, bad production, bad tank designs

2018-10-07 04:24:46 UTC  

bad tank designs?

2018-10-07 04:24:50 UTC  

ys

2018-10-07 04:25:08 UTC  

after Barbarossa the germans had bad tanks relative to everyone else

2018-10-07 04:25:19 UTC  

ah

2018-10-07 04:25:29 UTC  

INB4 Sherman is good tank

2018-10-07 04:25:41 UTC  

its a better tank then the tigers

2018-10-07 04:25:47 UTC  

JUMBO SHERMAN OP PLZ NERF

2018-10-07 04:26:13 UTC  

even the OG sherman was better then german tanks at the time

2018-10-07 04:26:21 UTC  

Germany didn't have oil, light tanks would have been preferable—but you might as well have invested in better machines with little crewmen, etc.

2018-10-07 04:26:57 UTC  

no, they needed medium tanks and actually make a good production system

2018-10-07 04:26:57 UTC  

Petrol ist blud

2018-10-07 04:27:10 UTC  

Panzer 4 is not a good medium lol