# Message from ^Kevin^ in The Ice Wall#lounge

2018-10-08 12:33:02 UTC

Yeah, the glare of the sun will dwindle as it goes into the clouds. Try one without clouds or distortion. I challenge you to find just one video that shows the sun shrinking while it sets over the ocean.

2018-10-08 12:37:22 UTC

pretty sure refraction and water magnifies the sun as it sets over an ocean

2018-10-08 12:37:48 UTC

why should I try to accomplish something that is obviously a red herring

2018-10-08 12:37:54 UTC

this doesn't change flat earth facts

2018-10-08 12:38:00 UTC

Ah but it does.

2018-10-08 12:38:14 UTC

I don’t know about you, but I trust my eyes.

2018-10-08 12:38:16 UTC

you know, I don't need to know the answer to everything

2018-10-08 12:38:31 UTC

I trust the fact that we live on a flat earth and I do trust my eyes

2018-10-08 12:38:35 UTC

And my eyes tell me that the sun never changes size.

2018-10-08 12:38:41 UTC

light coming off the sun and the hot spot shows the sun is local

2018-10-08 12:38:58 UTC

based on where you are located your angle of view, maybe it doesn't

2018-10-08 12:39:32 UTC

the further away from the path its traveling the line you go, the more your angle changes

2018-10-08 12:39:42 UTC

then the sun will not change shape as much based on your angle of view

2018-10-08 12:39:44 UTC

I know how hot spots work, and no it doesn’t. I live near the Atlantic Ocean, I see a hot spot every morning. It’s a long stream of light, not a spot, so it’s impossible to tell where the sun is based off of a “hot spot”.

2018-10-08 12:40:07 UTC

you can see a hot spot in the video

2018-10-08 12:40:43 UTC

I’m on data right now and I don’t want to blow through all of it. What timestamp?

2018-10-08 12:40:59 UTC

I have a very small data plan.

2018-10-08 12:43:20 UTC

water isn't the best place to see hot spots, it tends to streak

2018-10-08 12:43:47 UTC

So what else do you see them on besides water?

2018-10-08 12:44:45 UTC

you can see the sun spot at roughly 1:50 to 2:05 in the video

2018-10-08 12:44:54 UTC

sun hitting the clouds, its clearly seen

2018-10-08 12:45:23 UTC

pretty sure those are clouds

2018-10-08 12:45:41 UTC

you can get hot spot images of it hitting ground too

2018-10-08 12:45:45 UTC

Nope, that’s a break in the clouds with a body of water underneath.

2018-10-08 12:46:18 UTC

that is possible

2018-10-08 12:48:23 UTC

trying to get a sun spot pic

2018-10-08 12:48:26 UTC

2018-10-08 12:48:40 UTC

does any of this not look like CGI?

2018-10-08 12:49:22 UTC

top, right

2018-10-08 12:50:44 UTC

The bottom center left is not, neither is the bottom right, nor the middle center right, nor the middle center left. It’s just the sun with a good telescope.

2018-10-08 12:51:06 UTC

*mumbles how dictor ruins everything*

2018-10-08 12:51:06 UTC

distorted fish eye lens faking the curve on a few, most are CGI

2018-10-08 12:51:34 UTC

Why do you think they’re CGI?

2018-10-08 12:51:53 UTC

I don't think they are, they are

2018-10-08 12:52:03 UTC

2018-10-08 12:52:07 UTC

because kevin can always tell CGI from the real thing

2018-10-08 12:52:15 UTC

because we live on flat earth

2018-10-08 12:52:19 UTC

we can't get pass the dome

2018-10-08 12:52:28 UTC

Nice circular reasoning there.

2018-10-08 12:52:45 UTC

so anything showing pics of earth are obviously false

2018-10-08 12:52:56 UTC

keep in mind, Kevin doesnt care about facts