Message from @-A

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2017-02-03 18:18:54 UTC  

except maybe Stalin

2017-02-03 18:19:53 UTC  

the left has seen too many movies. there will be no violent revolution. trump is still getting set up. sessions isn't even in yet. i have faith he'll straighten things out and it will happen very quickly and easily. subconsciously they all need a spanking. we're gonna see things change very quickly i think.

2017-02-03 18:20:38 UTC  

It's the start of the healing process now that the band-aid is on.

2017-02-03 18:21:35 UTC  

@-A Healing process? Who needs healing?

2017-02-03 18:21:38 UTC  

by too many movies i mean they actually think they can take down evil governments by popular resistance. they're going through the same 60s script. well...they lost that battle physically too but won the culture war. now the culture is swinging back. they have no physical chance. they are not the reds of a century ago.

2017-02-03 18:22:08 UTC  

trump is the new reagan and thatcher

2017-02-03 18:22:12 UTC  

ready to end the leftist fun

2017-02-03 18:22:26 UTC  

@MRB The West needs healing. Trump is a good sign that will make a feedback loop of increasing rightism unless it is squandered and the people go back to sleep.

2017-02-03 18:27:08 UTC  

There's a part of my thinking, and I know this is a bit biased, that leftist thinking/belief needs to be coddled, developed and learned. Non-leftist (conservatism for example) is more a natural state. That being said, ending the left gives us what's natural.

2017-02-03 18:27:28 UTC  

Then again I am more tribal/anarchist than most. lol

2017-02-03 18:28:24 UTC  

@MRB I am pretty sure that at least most of the people here would agree with you. Do you read Brett's work on Amerika.org? That is the kind of thing he would say.

2017-02-03 18:28:45 UTC  

Been reading it for years 😋

2017-02-03 18:29:06 UTC  

Bias confirmed!!😝

2017-02-03 18:30:51 UTC  

I sort of split it in masculine/feminine though. Provider/provided for. Conqueror/conquered even

2017-02-03 18:31:18 UTC  

...and I definitely see the left as feminine.

2017-02-03 18:31:43 UTC  

Yes. As the saying goes, they are like shit-testing women. Especially the women.

2017-02-03 18:31:54 UTC  

LOL yup

2017-02-03 18:32:16 UTC  

Or as I say: only faggots and women vote democrat

2017-02-03 18:32:32 UTC  

That is the unabashed truth and one that needs a slogan.

2017-02-03 18:32:51 UTC  

I can see the high schoolers now: "I'm not gay...GO TRUMP!!"

2017-02-03 18:34:37 UTC  

@MRB How do you feel about the Organic Hierarchy and Monarchy/Aristocracy values that Brett believes in. I am partial to it myself but many of his readers think that it is outmoded terminology and means to OH and even that it is just plain undoable.

2017-02-03 18:37:02 UTC  

I agree with it to a certain extent. I think in many ways, though, we have that now to some extent too. The notion of "freedom" gets in the way of seeing that fully realized though. The terminology is irrelevant to me - I get the meaning more than the means.

2017-02-03 18:37:49 UTC  

Yep. What is important is that the best lead and we all do our part based on our own skills and natures.

2017-02-03 18:39:33 UTC  

The inherent problem (and I acknowledge I haven't fleshed the notion fully yet) is there is the problem of "who decides". Perhaps there is a free market sort of volunteerism that would get us there. Not sure how to get from current state to desired.

2017-02-03 18:40:38 UTC  

The "who decides" question is the same problem, in part, with egalitarianism.

2017-02-03 18:41:30 UTC  

I do, though, think we should be allowed to fully self segregate as a natural right of sorts.

2017-02-03 18:42:36 UTC  

I think that problem would solve itself as natural leaders take their newfound opportunities to lead their locales and their groups of peers. Eventually, the upper echelons of the nation would flesh out among these leaders and hence: Organic Hierarchy.

2017-02-03 18:42:51 UTC  

Agreed

2017-02-03 18:44:35 UTC  

And that's why I mentioned it's somewhat like we have now. We aren't happy with that though. Unfortunately we can't opt out - and for that matter never willfully entered in to the agreement as it was made at birth.

2017-02-03 18:45:33 UTC  

I also see the problem as the most skilled at selling empty promises and parasitism have risen using our "competitive" system.

2017-02-03 18:45:51 UTC  

They have moved in to fill the vacuum of our proper elite.

2017-02-03 18:46:17 UTC  

Then they used their popularity as external validation of their status.

2017-02-03 18:47:11 UTC  

"Then they used their popularity as external validation of their status." or their skill motivated/manipulated folks to see it that way.

2017-02-03 18:48:12 UTC  

The problem we have now, and back to something Brett says: lack of consequentialism. The results dont matter. Feeling good does to too many.

2017-02-03 18:49:32 UTC  

That goes back to my comment on opting out/volunteerism. We shouldn't have to replace the elites - we should be able to select them by what we follow.

2017-02-03 18:52:20 UTC  

I agree that they played the people with making themselves household names and being associated with popular ideas, basically: fabricating their actual popularity and approval. However, when left to the people choosing, there will always be this kind of corruption. Not the choosing itself but the democratic process. To choose to follow the natural leaders who extend themselves in your community is a natural thing but, to select from a catalogue of self professed leaders and politicians is unnatural and flawed.

2017-02-03 18:52:34 UTC  

More so than the older ways, that is.

2017-02-03 18:52:42 UTC  

They weren't perfect but, what is?

2017-02-03 18:55:49 UTC  

Agreed.

2017-02-03 18:56:11 UTC  

brb need a sando

2017-02-03 18:56:19 UTC  

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