Message from @fallot
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It's basically just internet libertarian principles extended to infinity
Reasons you should DeFOO
…if your parents have circumcised you.
…if your parents have assaulted you including; spanking, slapping, pinching, hitting, hitting with implements.
…if your parents yelled/were verbally abusive to you or others in the home.
…if your parents threatened to abandon you if you didn’t do what they asked.
…if your parents are irrational/hold religious beliefs and taught them to you as if they were fact.
…if you were sexually molested/abused by anyone while under your parents care. They are responsible for not protecting you. If you did not tell them and they didn’t notice, this is even worse.
…if your parents did not follow the moral rules they taught to you.
…if your parents do/did not respect your feelings or try to manipulate your feelings.
…if your parents have broken agreements they made with you.
…if your parents don’t listen to you, or are not interested in what you have to say.
…if your parents associate with corrupt people and or/expect you to associate with corrupt people.
If you continue associating with your Family Of Origin after they have treated you like this, particularly during your childhood when you are completely vulnerable, you are nourishing a lifetime of dysfunctional relationships. You are signaling not only to others, but also yourself that you do not believe you can do any better. You are signaling low self esteem, self hatred, and hypocrisy. No person of high self esteem will be interested in being a close friend or pursuing a romantic relationship. If you have kids, you will have to hide the truth about your childhood from them. If you tell them the truth, you will be communicating that it is perfectly fine to associate with people that have abused you.
this has a particularly air of sketchy about it
like when you find one of those instructive new age websites
with extremely questionable self-help protocols
That's the intention, it's an anti-DeFoo site
ah
it presents him as a kind of L. Ron Hubbard figure
molyneux always seemed questionable
I think he is sociopathic
the fact htat he's "risen to stardom" so quickly affirms this i think
early days
i'd agree
I mean it's just a thought
whatever he is, he is very canny, knows which way the wind blows
i don't have a firm grasp on how influential he is
but he seems to have a very far reach
extremely
it's not clear the end game of this stuff is
well assuming he is a sociopath, there is no endgame, there is no big plan
seems almost religious in nature
yeah that could be likely
the DeFoo shit is religious
he certainly is prolific, and good at speaking uninterrupted
yeah
I mean I wouldn't call it that, but I know what you mean
culty
cult like behaviour, but more importantly
people who become vulnerable by dissociating with their loved ones
are prime manipulating material for the sociopath
it can be difficult to understand what the sociopath gets out of this
because people tend to consider very material motivations
and while these can certainly be what they want in some cases
fallot did you watch that "holy hell" doc
someone of a more cerebral bent, or just fucking bent, may have different motivations
no, what's that
it's a good recent cult documentary
on netflix if you have that
I'll check it out
but what's it about, just the gist