Message from @fallot

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2017-05-24 08:07:38 UTC  

Why allow error to ever occur? Why not just skip to the end?

2017-05-24 08:07:42 UTC  

Why create anything at all?

2017-05-24 08:07:44 UTC  

due to choice

2017-05-24 08:07:50 UTC  

Why allow choice?

2017-05-24 08:07:52 UTC  

why create anything: due to love

2017-05-24 08:07:54 UTC  

Why not just skip to the end?

2017-05-24 08:08:01 UTC  

See, that's where we differ.

2017-05-24 08:08:03 UTC  

allow choice to create meaningful children

2017-05-24 08:08:07 UTC  

I don't think you create something out of love.

2017-05-24 08:08:09 UTC  

can't "skip to the end"

2017-05-24 08:08:11 UTC  

I think you create something to hurt it.

2017-05-24 08:08:14 UTC  

Why not?

2017-05-24 08:08:17 UTC  

defeats the purpose of choice

2017-05-24 08:08:18 UTC  

Does god lack the power?

2017-05-24 08:08:19 UTC  

Why?

2017-05-24 08:08:26 UTC  

Why have choice at all?

2017-05-24 08:08:27 UTC  

there is no possible "such power"

2017-05-24 08:08:31 UTC  

Why not?

2017-05-24 08:08:32 UTC  

it means there would be no choice

2017-05-24 08:08:35 UTC  

And?

2017-05-24 08:08:44 UTC  

you aren't really waiting for me to respond

2017-05-24 08:08:45 UTC  

Choice is not needed. Order and obedience and perfection is needed.

2017-05-24 08:08:51 UTC  

You're not really responding.

2017-05-24 08:08:58 UTC  

okay, conversation over

2017-05-24 08:09:01 UTC  

Whatever.

2017-05-24 08:09:13 UTC  

Why allow choice at all if a wrong choice can be made?

2017-05-24 08:09:20 UTC  

Why allow free will when it will only go wrong?

2017-05-24 08:09:28 UTC  

Why does that make "meaningful children"?

2017-05-24 08:09:31 UTC  

your question contains your answer

2017-05-24 08:09:31 UTC  

What did you even mean by that?

2017-05-24 08:09:37 UTC  

No, it doesn't.

2017-05-24 08:09:48 UTC  

If error can occur, error has occurred.

2017-05-24 08:09:56 UTC  

So, it doesn't contain the answer.

2017-05-24 08:10:00 UTC  

meaningful children = creations of God who are able to choose himself themselves

2017-05-24 08:10:07 UTC  

Why would that be a good thing?

2017-05-24 08:10:07 UTC  

rather than simply being created in perfection

2017-05-24 08:10:11 UTC  

Why not just leave nothingness?

2017-05-24 08:10:25 UTC  

there is no nothingness

2017-05-24 08:10:26 UTC  

only god

2017-05-24 08:10:34 UTC  

Then do you understand why I hate god so much?

2017-05-24 08:10:43 UTC  

I do understand why you hate god yes