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2017-05-31 01:48:19 UTC  

in its reproducibility

2017-05-31 01:48:30 UTC  

it doesn't tell you anything beyond the sum of its parts

2017-05-31 01:48:39 UTC  

some people have tried a synthesis or creating a new system

2017-05-31 01:48:46 UTC  

because MBTI retests so badly

2017-05-31 01:48:54 UTC  

but that doesn't mean MBTI is wrong, it means that testing is shit

2017-05-31 01:48:57 UTC  

which it just is

2017-05-31 01:49:30 UTC  

while some percentages here or there doesnt affect the broad big 5 picture

2017-05-31 01:49:33 UTC  

it can alter your type

2017-05-31 01:49:33 UTC  

so where is something like "neuroticism" in MBTI? Would it just be a different sphere?

2017-05-31 01:49:52 UTC  

neuroticism would be explained as a number of different traits producing a similar looking result

2017-05-31 01:50:09 UTC  

this is based on a theory of cognitive functions, MBTI

2017-05-31 01:50:34 UTC  

there is a correlation between NTs and neuroticism I believe

2017-05-31 01:50:55 UTC  

but there's not a universally accepted conversion formula where someone highly neurotic is predictably this combo or that combo in MBTI terms?

2017-05-31 01:51:02 UTC  

no

2017-05-31 01:51:20 UTC  

one bunch of people tried a synthesis of neuroticism

2017-05-31 01:51:24 UTC  

by adding a letter to MBTI

2017-05-31 01:51:31 UTC  

-A or -T, assertive or turbulent

2017-05-31 01:51:36 UTC  

I think its worthless

2017-05-31 01:52:22 UTC  

that's interesting

2017-05-31 01:52:49 UTC  

what's your opinion? is neuroticism just a misperception of something else?

2017-05-31 01:54:18 UTC  

I am forced to consider it is a misinterpretation of other things yes

2017-05-31 01:54:59 UTC  

on this page

2017-05-31 01:55:04 UTC  

Idealist = NF

2017-05-31 01:55:09 UTC  

Rationalist = NT

2017-05-31 01:55:19 UTC  

Traditionalist = ST

2017-05-31 01:55:24 UTC  

Hedonist = SP

2017-05-31 01:55:46 UTC  

and while the rest are a mix

2017-05-31 01:56:05 UTC  

I've only met one person I'd call really neurotic

2017-05-31 01:56:08 UTC  

for example: Aggressiveness = ENTJ, Solitary = INTJ (or INTP even, but less characteristically so)

2017-05-31 01:56:26 UTC  

Inventive = ENTP

2017-05-31 01:56:44 UTC  

Idiosyncratic = INTP (Less characteristically INTJ)

2017-05-31 01:56:51 UTC  

and perhaps even ENTP

2017-05-31 01:57:00 UTC  

I'm reading Solitary now

2017-05-31 01:58:37 UTC  

people would say this sounds like me

2017-05-31 01:58:56 UTC  

I'm more of a gnostic than a pure rationalist though

2017-05-31 01:59:55 UTC  

read idiosyncratic as well

2017-05-31 01:59:57 UTC  

I don't think I'm interested in "diagnosing" myself on this stuff though. Sometimes you just kinda read yourself into whatever it is you're reading.

2017-05-31 02:00:01 UTC  

they identify idiosyncratic with INTJ

2017-05-31 02:00:05 UTC  

and solitary with INTP

2017-05-31 02:00:09 UTC  

mmk