Message from @say

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2017-06-07 18:06:28 UTC  

who, heartiste?

2017-06-07 18:06:53 UTC  

The 2005 EPAct I mentioned is an expansion of a 1978 statute called PURPA, which was implemented following the oil crises of the late 70s

2017-06-07 18:06:56 UTC  

for national security reasons

2017-06-07 18:07:04 UTC  

Fartiste

2017-06-07 18:07:47 UTC  

Congress on a bipartisan basis decided that it would be sensible to expand our energy portfolio into small-scale and decentralized renewable generation to avoid what happened under Carter during the OPEC crises

2017-06-07 18:09:04 UTC  

At that time, small-scale renewable generation was MUCH more expensive that fossil fuel generated power, but the national security reasons for having it (at least on a small scale) were important enough to both subsidize it through tax credits and to force utilities to buy from small generators under PURPA

2017-06-07 18:09:09 UTC  

Who cares? Tell him that on his blog. Damn..

2017-06-07 18:09:20 UTC  

fallot asked

2017-06-07 18:09:48 UTC  

you have a really bad attitude about this stuff @say

2017-06-07 18:09:49 UTC  

Was this post made in relation to Trump and Paris Agreement?

2017-06-07 18:10:09 UTC  

@fallot the discussion went offtopic

2017-06-07 18:10:55 UTC  

The other part of the story is that prices on renewables have dropped significantly in the intervening time thanks to the incentivized investment, and the possibility exists going forward that renewables might become not only a good national security bet but also a reasonably cheap source of power, which would allow them to expand their role in our national energy portfolio.

2017-06-07 18:10:57 UTC  

I am interested too

2017-06-07 18:11:16 UTC  

a debateable proposition

2017-06-07 18:11:20 UTC  

Definitely

2017-06-07 18:11:27 UTC  

thank you

2017-06-07 18:11:40 UTC  

As we discussed before, renewables face several currently unsolved problems

2017-06-07 18:12:28 UTC  

can burning gays for energy qualify for a subsidy

2017-06-07 18:13:20 UTC  

Jevons paradox

2017-06-07 18:13:36 UTC  

I'm not sure about the tax credit availability on that, but you can definitely force a utility to purchase power from your gay-burning plant under PURPA since it would be a "bio-mass fuel"

2017-06-07 18:15:02 UTC  

by 2050 africa population will be 2.5billion. How much fuel would you create by burning 2.5 billion bodies?

2017-06-07 18:15:40 UTC  

Another important consideration related to the "energy portfolio" concept is that renewables function as a hedge against price uncertainty. Both for reasons that any diversified portfolio is generally more stable, and because the fundamental shifts that affect market price of fossil fuels are different than the fundamental shifts that affect renewable production.

2017-06-07 18:15:49 UTC  

Would it be better to put them in "human batteries" were them by simply moving in distress would create energy like a hamster?

2017-06-07 18:16:35 UTC  

What is all this energy spent on? IIRC far less of it was by private households than by industry, although household expenditure is easily double what it should be

2017-06-07 18:17:16 UTC  

Industry and infrastructure. Household expenditure is high, but efficiency solutions applied there can't solve the problem

2017-06-07 18:17:22 UTC  

if a problem exists

2017-06-07 18:17:27 UTC  

I unplug appliances/electronics/lamps when not in use

2017-06-07 18:18:38 UTC  

my da thinks it saves money

2017-06-07 18:18:51 UTC  

but it's a pain in the ass when youre only gonna be busy for half an hour tops

2017-06-07 18:19:19 UTC  

I barely own anything and have no electronics but phone and computer

2017-06-07 18:19:28 UTC  

It does over time but it depends on the draw of the appliance. It's probably not worth your effort for an hour and a half. But if I leave town I unplug my amp and stuff because that draws a lot of power.

2017-06-07 18:19:31 UTC  

probably a couple dollars

2017-06-07 18:20:08 UTC  

My musical stuff is all acoustic

2017-06-07 18:20:14 UTC  

Yeah, but we unplug pretty much everything except the wifi, fridge, security system, and our deep freezer lmao

2017-06-07 18:20:24 UTC  

Security system lol

2017-06-07 18:20:31 UTC  

Cameras and junk

2017-06-07 18:20:49 UTC  

we have a lot of tweaker okies in my neighborhood that steal copper and mail and junk

2017-06-07 18:21:06 UTC  

What is an okie

2017-06-07 18:21:11 UTC  

so we have a recording system in case da shoots anyone

2017-06-07 18:21:27 UTC  

like super white trash

2017-06-07 18:21:41 UTC  

like, on an unbearable level