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this is all a very primitive conception of it

I mean... what is the experience of people with bipolar? do they just have moods waffle for no reason, or are there obvious reasons for it?

E.g. adderalls, add-type stimulants for many work as a type of anti-depressant. They are, of course, *uppers*. For every single "inch" of up there's a related "down" that follows the 'comedown'. It may not be an absolute 1:1, I don't know, but it's enough to change people. If a person gets a prescription to that, it's not highly available, and that person will spend a whole lot less time with a well balanced brain.

comcast that rules out the diagnosis of bipolar disorder

Exilarch - True, I can only make assumptions about bipolar...

it literally is a DSM V criterion that the mood/behavioral changes cannot be explained by a medication effect or withdrawal

I see. I was replying to the 'everyone seems to be bipolar' idea.

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I don't know enough about true bipolar to make strong correlations, just giving an example of a certain *created* instability that may help explain 'everyone seems bipolar'.

the thing to keep in mind is that psychiatric conditions by default have both an organic and psychologic cause, that is why they are psychiatric and not psychologic or neurologic

Huh, is that right? interesting...

Then of coourse my question is

If not psychiatric, psychologic, or neurologic

so if you look at people with ups and downs in their lives... well, could that be because they are millennials with no hope in life, who then see a glimmer of hope and get all "manic" about pursuing them and thinking their lives might come to something, only to be frustrated and then become "depressed" again?

could it simply be a boom-bust cycle of hope that creates the observed effect of bipolar?

Yes

Certainly.

because I have it on good info that it is

as a bipolar ii person, it resonates

and not that they are magically eating the wrong stuff or taking the wrong pills because we are all just meat bags who are acting mechanically based on the chemicals floating around in our meat

I don't know enough about legitimate clinical bipolar, so I would guess that what you describe is exactly what I meant. You just phrased it way better than I did.

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I hate seeing people talk about mood disorders like it's just reducible to material

"" Chemical imbalance ""

it's only a disorder because it fits the sperg criteria the DSM made so they could simplify diagnosis for the sake of proving to the insurance company that the patient does have a problem and to coddle along the modern idiot psychologists who are far inferior to their 1950s era peers they replaced

better psychiatrists in better days would've had far more subtle ways of describing the workings of their patients' minds

DSM psychiatry is nerfed, just like the modern left/right political spectrum is nerfed to make it extremely simple so idiots can use it

just like in prior decades you might've seen people casually discuss moral philosophy and human behavioral tendencies and historical precedents as a justification for the politics they favor and now you just see retards cheering for !!!Are Team!!!, you see people carrying around that fucking DSMV handbook and its laundry list of disorders as though it actually means something

psychiatry is actually finally turning a corner in which they are getting more scientific and empiric

so even though they can't tell you /why/ their stuff works, they can prove by the numbers /that/ it works

which is something at least, if you're a blockhead

or more realistically a paki who only landed psychiatry because it was a less competitive specialty

Dear god, pakis are common in psychiatry ?

extremely

"please to be meet you I'm Doctor Ibn Mustafa Jafar Syed Islam, why you are be feeling like to be killing the self? 😃 "

That's amazing. I find them to be so timid, and so absolutely lacking in most forms of spirit, or personality that it's hard to imagine them there.

it's pretty hilarious tbh

"why you want to be killing of the self?"
"please use the phonetouch pad to indicate the number of suicidal feelings had today"
"thank you come again : ^) "

yeah basically

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