Message from @Apollo'sJest

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2017-07-19 16:44:21 UTC  

in the sense that they require a certain setup of civilization

2017-07-19 16:44:31 UTC  

they can only occur at a certain level of societal development and scale

2017-07-19 16:44:36 UTC  

and inevitably

2017-07-19 16:44:38 UTC  

such a setup is temporary

2017-07-19 16:44:48 UTC  

it will always fail, and always default back to kings

2017-07-19 16:44:52 UTC  

rome is a great example

2017-07-19 16:45:05 UTC  

that it will fail doesn't mean its not worth doing or whatever

2017-07-19 16:45:07 UTC  

but its the case

2017-07-19 16:45:14 UTC  

the history of man is a history of kings, not republics

2017-07-19 16:46:41 UTC  

unnatural is a very loaded word, I stand by what I said but it carries connotations of disgust, undesirability etc.

2017-07-19 16:46:44 UTC  

I don't mean those

2017-07-19 16:47:04 UTC  

I actually agree with the seamingly temporary nature of Republics but your original point (the one that I called retarded af) was that monarchy is the natural state of human society. You realise that recorded History is a small fraction of our species history right?

2017-07-19 16:47:05 UTC  

it's possible to raise children in a communal environment

2017-07-19 16:47:18 UTC  

the argument there is you can see an obvious step up

2017-07-19 16:47:22 UTC  

from society at small scale

2017-07-19 16:47:22 UTC  

For most of our existance we were naked apes in jungles...

2017-07-19 16:47:25 UTC  

to kings at large scale

2017-07-19 16:47:45 UTC  

your answer is in what you said

2017-07-19 16:47:46 UTC  

human society

2017-07-19 16:47:51 UTC  

society requires behavioural modernity

2017-07-19 16:48:01 UTC  

It requires culture

2017-07-19 16:48:13 UTC  

another thing which requires behavioural modernity, culture

2017-07-19 16:48:26 UTC  

i.e. our existence before that is not hugely relevant

2017-07-19 16:48:37 UTC  

consider raising children

2017-07-19 16:48:45 UTC  

it is possible to raise children in a communal fashion

2017-07-19 16:48:53 UTC  

some modern people think this is desirable, or even good

2017-07-19 16:49:02 UTC  

and that families should be dissolved

2017-07-19 16:49:26 UTC  

its a more obviously evil thing than a republic but I think there's some overlap

2017-07-19 16:49:36 UTC  

They are retaded, as far as I know all experiments done on the subject (in the Soviet bloc mostly) showed really shit results

2017-07-19 16:49:37 UTC  

not that I think a republic is evil

2017-07-19 16:49:55 UTC  

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2017-07-19 16:50:06 UTC  

with raising children you have the benefit of a sensitive situation

2017-07-19 16:50:09 UTC  

that develops over a short period of time

2017-07-19 16:50:33 UTC  

I see very little simmilarities between the communal rasing of children and government structure

2017-07-19 16:50:51 UTC  

well I was leading to that both are deviations from a behavioural norm

2017-07-19 16:50:54 UTC  

which may be considered superior

2017-07-19 16:50:57 UTC  

per someones mores

2017-07-19 16:51:02 UTC  

and they may have convincing arguments for it

2017-07-19 16:51:41 UTC  

Your argument is detatched from the state of reality here, you're arguing purely form

2017-07-19 16:51:59 UTC  

really? I would think the opposite

2017-07-19 16:52:07 UTC  

we will default back to kings