that's what the occult really is

@fallot vigilant citizen is a good source. Dr Anthony Napoleon mentioned him in his book Shadow Men. It's all in there on purpose and it's not just for shock value like some claim. But sometimes it is.

shock value

that term requires some dissection

traumatizing or making someone suggestible

and then exposing them to certain symbols or ideas or whatever

literally, value out of shock

nothing there is without purpose

I'm using it generally. I'm pretty sure a lot of people use the symbolism just to look edgy and generate buzz.

whereas I think differently

there's always a good reason

Vigilant Citizen 👌🏻

the word symbolism is used, but what symbolism?

symbols encode meaning

the triangle, the blazing star, the pentagram, the baphomet

as above so below

Yes we all know about those

have you checked out Vigilant Citizen @NarthissiumRithmomachy ?

I used to read it all the time

do you believe in Satan

@fallot no. Do you?

I do

this is why I mentioned Guenon and his ideas

the key idea I was referring to was inversion

something many people have noted in different contexts

the thing that never made sense to me was why not just destruction, why not just chaos

@fallot I presume you're a Christian. Correct?

why not a multiplicity of ways to break down

no, a muslim

@fallot really?

yes

anyway I was saying

@fallot where are you from?

pakistan

in recent years even relatively normal people have noticed that things seem to be degrading

and a broad label of "leftism" is applied to this

some people have a purely political understanding of it

some people extend it to a sociological one

and so on so forth

anyway the problem for me was, why not just destruction

why is it not enough simply for things to be destroyed, why do they have to then be perverted as well