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i think there are two competing LGBT agendas, the upper and the lower

the upper agenda, is largely organized from the top down elites, who wish to deconstruct and reformat western society as they please, and they use the LGBT populace as a smokescreen and a distraction.

the lower agenda, are genuine LGBT people who want to live largely in peace, free from the risk of getting beaten to a greasy pink smear on the street, merely for existing, and enjoy the same rights and privileges of society as everyone else.

you might be right about that

but they're all disgusting scum

except that homosexuality in inherently depraved and nasty @rebekka888

there are no such "genuine" LGBT people

well, earth humanity is pretty disgusting all around, i think

thieves, frauds etc. also appear like fine enough people

the upper echleon of gay society wants the legal capacity to act in its own interests for advancement of the homosexual as identity

the lower wants to cruise gay bars and poz each other

LGBT is not promoted in a way of "leave us be"

people already left them be

its not even "accept us"

they don't want to be left alone

its pushed as actively good

fallot, that i think is a trait of the upper agenda

I don't think there is a difference, though your theory isn't bad

there's just one agenda

also, the intent of the elites is to specifically push the LGBT stuff for its own sake

rather than to use that as a tool for "control" or whatever

such an explanation does not answer the specific nature of what is being pushed

in predictable ways

e.g. faggotry -> transsexualism etc.

nor the nature of the discourse

they want to get rid of family

get rid of marriage

get rid of gender

and swap them out not for nothing, but for something that's like the opposite of these

so not "no marriage for anyone"

but gay marriage

not "there is no sex, men and women are the same"

but men who literally try to become women in an exaggerated fashion

and vice versa

but what you said is sensible

well, in the case of the upper agenda, it is used as a 'problem' component in the problem-reaction-solution formula, as such , the elites are going to push pro-gay and trans-trendiness to the breaking point, and then when people whiplash, the elites will then trot out a preconceived solution

that makes sense

but the ends that you ascribe to them dont