Message from @Platon et la MG42

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2017-08-14 12:10:17 UTC  

Yes. I don't think one can expect much support by making the Nazi salute and using swastika flags out in the streets.
You need the right kind of propaganda to sway the masses to your side.

2017-08-14 12:11:33 UTC  

the nazis are horrible baggage

2017-08-14 12:11:39 UTC  

they've always been useless

2017-08-14 12:11:55 UTC  

and now they're going to either take over the narrative, or be pushed by insidious forces to the top

2017-08-14 12:12:04 UTC  

like when Spencer was crowned King of the Alt Right by the media

2017-08-14 12:12:56 UTC  

It's like trying to get someone into Metal by making them listen to Infester.

2017-08-14 12:13:15 UTC  

nah more like some NSBM band or Blasphemy clone

2017-08-14 12:13:21 UTC  

Infester is really good

2017-08-14 12:13:53 UTC  

Neonazis are worthless, Nazism is failure that people attach their modern ideas of white nationalism etc. to

2017-08-14 12:13:55 UTC  

for various reasons

2017-08-14 12:14:19 UTC  

serious Nazi studies are good, breaking up the lies about them are good

2017-08-14 12:14:32 UTC  

but even the intent should not be to adopt them eventually

2017-08-14 12:14:38 UTC  

they were evil quite frankly

2017-08-14 12:14:47 UTC  

maybe the lesser evil, but evil

2017-08-14 12:15:55 UTC  

not as evil as the eternal anglo

2017-08-14 12:16:22 UTC  

maybe, but nevertheless not something to adopt

2017-08-14 12:17:31 UTC  

at least this episode made me read TRS forum

2017-08-14 12:17:34 UTC  

I should have done that before

2017-08-14 12:18:16 UTC  

these people are delusional

2017-08-14 12:24:07 UTC  

Damn when i said this, it was like "i love nazism and SS Charlemagne"
That would be better if leftism was over without all these victims.

2017-08-14 12:25:46 UTC  

& I cannot talk because i don't have enought knowledge on the question. Maybe i've got 70-80% of opinion.

2017-08-14 12:26:19 UTC  

rarely any harm in talking, maybe you know more than you realize

2017-08-14 12:28:36 UTC  

its the patriot angle they need to push, not the Nazi one

2017-08-14 12:28:55 UTC  

I'm not sure if this is a media war, people seem to fights on things that are not even real, I think it's Bruce Charlton who is right in the long run, to "win" the media war is simply to leave the media

2017-08-14 12:29:28 UTC  

that makes more sense at an individual level I think

2017-08-14 12:29:39 UTC  

my point was the conflict is in the realm of ideas and messages

2017-08-14 12:29:55 UTC  

leftists have won by the general acknowledgement of their values

2017-08-14 12:30:00 UTC  

which even these antileftists often hold

2017-08-14 12:30:34 UTC  

its a soft, bouncy castle totalitarianism

2017-08-14 12:31:25 UTC  

you can leave the media, but how do others that you need to reach leave the media?

2017-08-14 12:31:36 UTC  

you can cut through everything and just offer them the truth

2017-08-14 12:31:52 UTC  

it was alternative media in the first place, blogs etc. that started this whole thing

2017-08-14 12:31:56 UTC  

including Charlton

2017-08-14 12:33:51 UTC  

maybe you're right, but Nick Land's accelerationism & atomization make me think that we missed the train and what's is happening is far deeper than the surface media

2017-08-14 12:34:29 UTC  

I'm not sure what you mean by that, but "surface media" is itself a deep thing

2017-08-14 12:34:51 UTC  

people consistently fail to see outside themselves

2017-08-14 12:34:58 UTC  

appreciate the exceptionalness of their situation or environment

2017-08-14 12:35:11 UTC  

which can make even a study of history misleading, without the right frame

2017-08-14 12:35:32 UTC  

its simply unprecedented, this level of contact between people

2017-08-14 12:35:48 UTC  

our entire lives have changed in fundamental ways

2017-08-14 12:35:56 UTC  

me talking to you right now