Message from @UOC
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they shutdown the former altright server
init?
yeah
the altright.com server
ah i see
this place isn't really connected to that
yeah i get it
Genius is a certain personality and certain traits
what are those traits?
The ability to become very good at something (in terms of deep understanding)
which requires higher than average intelligence, and dedication towards a certain field
Then the ability to be creative and innovate
partially that requires high IQ as well, but only up to the depth of understanding point
real creativity is psychoticism
clinical psychoses are the extreme end of a line that has genius and artist on it somewhere
this is easily proven, artists tend to have a preponderance of schizophrenia
it is my belief that there is no categorical difference between the artistic and scientific genius
nothing that divides them beyond just being involved in arts vs. sciences
Really? I would agree, depending on who you count as artistic geniuses. I think think "raw" creative genius often lacks the sort of Conscientious personality that seems necessary for other geniuses
but for someone like Bach or whoever, they seem to line up
ah but geniuses are often dedicated
but almost never conscientous
certainly no genius is more conscientous than the average person
usually the successful people have other figures in their life
or some environment
that allows them to live comfortably and sensibly
well maybe I'm using the wrong word. dedicated is better
my problem is Charlton has already surpassed and consolidated anything I could say
but at the same time
just linking a book doesn't end well
so I end up quoting or summarizing him with a smattering of my own ideas
Chapter 9 is called The Shaman versus the Head Girl
the true genius is the former, the type of person likely to succeed in the world is the latter
i have his book bookmarked
The ‘Head Girl’ is thus even more problematic in terms of genius. The stereotypical Head Girl is an all-rounder: performs extremely well in all school subjects and has a very high ‘Grade Point Average’ as it is termed in the USA. She is excellent at sports, Captaining all the major teams. She is also pretty, popular, sociable and well-behaved.
The Head Girl will probably be a big success in life, in whatever terms being a big success happens to be framed (she will gravitate towards such aspects of life) – so she might in some times and places make a good marriage and do a great job of raising a family; in another time and place she might go to a top-notch college and get a top-notch job – and pursue a glamorous and infertile lifestyle of ‘serial monogamy’; with desirable mates.
But the Head Girl is not, cannot be, a creative genius. The genius is pretty much everything the Head Girl is not. He (or she) is lop-sided in his abilities – truly excellent at some things or maybe just one thing, he is either hopeless or bored by many others. He won’t work hard for long periods at things he does not want to do. He will not gravitate to the prestige areas of life and cannot, or will not, do the networking necessary to get-on.
The Head Girl can never be a creative genius because she does what other people want by the standards they most value. She will work harder and at a higher standard in doing whatever it is that social pressure tells her to do – and she will do this by whatever social standards prevail, only more thoroughly. Meanwhile the creative genius will do what he does because he must.
The Head Girl will not want to alienate potentially powerful allies. Meanwhile the creative genius is indifferent or hostile to the opinions of others so long as he knows he is right.
The Head Girl is great to have around, everybody thinks she is wonderful. Meanwhile the creative genius is at best a person who divides opinion, strongly, in both directions – at worst often a signed-up member of the awkward squad.
@UOC as we share a personality type I can reasonably assume that while you are well meaning, things like "read this book" tend to fall into a hole from which they will never be recovered
its certainly the case for me
I get to about 80% of the things I start out intending to do.