Message from @fallot
Discord ID: 348498711472766976
okay, sure
building a wall between america and mexico
is hate
because of taking action?
(no it isnt hate)
I mean, people describe such things with these slogans
okay, so this is the point where you better assign two distinct labels so I know what you mean
"X is hate"
"global warming is hate"
but none of these things are hate
hate is what you said it is
which I entirely agree with
and that thing which you said it is
its a bad thing
okay, so are you saying building a wall is or isn't hate?
isn't
so hate = feeling the emotion, taking action against is something different though society conflates?
hate is hate, building a wall is building a wall
love is love, building a wall is building a wall
america building a wall, while it can be hateful, is also a pragmatic thing to try to do, in the face of mexico's policy of reconquista
feeling that emotion
yeah, action is action
your motivations should be good
I don't see anything wrong with feeling the subjective emotion of hatred, nor do I think it's all that much in our control, although I concede that chasing down confirmation bias information to amplify it is probably not good, though I do not see that as having moral weight
and then you do the necessary actions
hate, unnecessary
sometimes, helpful
but never primary
never to be indulged
a bad thing overall, destructive, damaging
good intention, right action, accept inevitability
really simple stuff
like, I hate other races, I feel the primary feeling, but I do not run around looking for news articles that confirm the violence or evil of niggers
do you in fact hate other races?
or do you make yourself feel something towards the idea of other races
to which you have attached other associations
which is kinda funny really, because my seething hatred is entirely primary, it's not indulged in with stuff to amplify it
various moral ones
on various moral axes
harm, disgust/purity