people in office jobs in particular

Then they would actively undermine shit like hand tools to one guy to produce more.

And get rewarded and share a bit do the rewards.

As it looks better.

have to be here for a certain amount of time, time is spent pretending to work if work is done ahead of schedule, beats making an effort to catch up on something else if there is no reward for it

Like say he gets a bonus and gives you 100 bucks for handing him a new tool to mine so he doesn't have to waste time that week while you pretend to mine

It still looks like everyone is mining and output is the same or less.

But he has more so he gets rewarded.

And can give you some of it.

work rewarded is mostly "I worked here longer" rather than "I am more effective at this job"

@charles watson yep

See teachers.

they want people to feel included, very feminine type decisions

@charles watson bring back real feudalism and you get crazy shit.

Like the king of England declaring himself "imperial"

I definetly think we lost a lot of good things from the past

Or other people saying theyre the king as they have a bigger army than the king.

That's basically Rome. The population supported the Emperor against the vaguely democratic Senate every time.

Well if you had enough wealth and military experience, you could get real power.

And they would rather have had the military be the only root to real power under an autocrat.

people not born to hold power probably shouldn't be given power

@charles watson but that never worked.

indeed, kings would often surround themselves with people of ignoble heritage

It has produced the same amount of incompetent people as elections

Maybe less as the son that's incompetent tends to get killed and replaced.

Appointing your number 2 seems to work best.

well there was definetly some disorder that lead to becoming more democratic, but it still would have been preferable to maintain the older order

But your heir has to actually be your number 2 and effective at it.

With monarchy, if you do not have an adult male heir already doing part of your job, then you have failed.

And your kid will suck almost always.

That's how you end up with Aethelred the Unready or Nicholas II or Louis XVI or Commodus.

Or Caligula

Or Dominitian who just pissed people off.

Or Richard and John

Or William II, Henry I,

Totally incompetent pieces of shit.

what about Henry VIII?

Henry VIII was very competent as was Elizabeth and James I. Charles I was a fucking idiot

The problem was Henry VIII had no heir.

If he could hand his absolute monarchy to his #2 and have him marry his daughter, that would be a lot better but he couldn't

What was your issue with Henry I?