Message from @Exilarch

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2018-01-23 01:43:54 UTC  

In context

2018-01-23 01:44:04 UTC  

Of a video tape

2018-01-23 01:44:22 UTC  

so you only trust something if it's on video?

2018-01-23 01:44:32 UTC  

No

2018-01-23 01:44:52 UTC  

That would be the equal standard of proof to the theory or aging

2018-01-23 01:45:18 UTC  

The theory of aging can be demonstrated on video

2018-01-23 01:45:33 UTC  

Monkeys turning into people cannot

2018-01-23 01:45:45 UTC  

i mean, i can link you videos on it?

2018-01-23 01:46:09 UTC  

It allegedly happened well before the advent of video recording

2018-01-23 01:46:34 UTC  

This is entry level philosophic discussion

2018-01-23 01:46:50 UTC  

Empiricism vs rationalism, internet sperg edition

2018-01-23 01:49:18 UTC  

i realize that

2018-01-23 01:50:08 UTC  

So you realize there cannot be video tape of it

2018-01-23 01:53:29 UTC  

yes

2018-01-23 01:53:59 UTC  

It seems we are in agreement then

2018-01-23 01:54:17 UTC  

when i find a videotape of a monkey turning into a man you'll be so sorry

2018-01-23 01:54:29 UTC  

We both believe things that cannot pass the other's standard of proof

2018-01-23 01:55:14 UTC  

i think we're not in agreement about what proof means

2018-01-23 01:55:49 UTC  

We agree what proof means but we have different standards

2018-01-23 01:57:05 UTC  

You seem to perhaps have a more universal standard of proof, whereas mine depends on the context, for instance I believe that spiritual proof is different from say proving that 2 + 2 = 4

2018-01-23 02:00:37 UTC  

What is proof

2018-01-23 02:01:33 UTC  

If you have proof, what do you have exactly?

2018-01-23 02:02:21 UTC  

jesus coming back to life isn't a spiritual claim

2018-01-23 02:02:38 UTC  

"evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement."

2018-01-23 02:02:49 UTC  

So what constitutes proof

2018-01-23 02:03:02 UTC  

Depends on who you ask

2018-01-23 02:03:13 UTC  

I think it depends on the context

2018-01-23 02:03:29 UTC  

You are asserting it's physical phenomena that, by existing, rules out other theories of reality

2018-01-23 02:03:41 UTC  

@pd no, it is not

2018-01-23 02:04:21 UTC  

Some people say there are multiple realities

2018-01-23 02:04:30 UTC  

For example, time lapse video of a monkey evolving into a person or at least into a negro would rule out your world view

2018-01-23 02:04:40 UTC  

Yes

2018-01-23 02:04:52 UTC  

So your notion of proof is phenomenological

2018-01-23 02:05:23 UTC  

Thus you are an empiricist

2018-01-23 02:05:40 UTC  

For this sort of thing, yes

2018-01-23 02:06:02 UTC  

I wouldn't ask for the phenotype of a math question though

2018-01-23 02:06:39 UTC  

Why not

2018-01-23 02:07:57 UTC  

I guess it seems irrelevant

2018-01-23 02:08:15 UTC  

Doesn't that notion of proof suppose that any of us have theories of reality that are at all accurate, and also that empirical phenomenological evidence is capable of being successfully interpreted?

2018-01-23 02:08:53 UTC  

It just becomes science that denies mainstream science as an institution because you haven't personally seen their phenomena

2018-01-23 02:09:53 UTC  

I would say I accept other people's theories of reality to be their own, but inaccurate at the same time