Message from @AutumnFire

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2017-10-07 06:58:48 UTC  

This is a good example of the Backfire Effect

2017-10-07 06:59:00 UTC  

my issue is that there are clear inequalities that currently exist, and have historical precedent, and i've seen personally and heard about personally

2017-10-07 06:59:17 UTC  

and i feel that unless those inequalities are remedied, it's not possible to make a genetic argument because there are confounds

2017-10-07 07:00:31 UTC  

why is it that you don't believe in racism?

2017-10-07 07:00:40 UTC  

and believe in the genetic argument?

2017-10-07 07:00:56 UTC  

Because it doesn't exist in this scenario

2017-10-07 07:01:22 UTC  

White cops don't shoot blacks because they're black

2017-10-07 07:01:46 UTC  

It's because they felt that they we're in danger

2017-10-07 07:02:10 UTC  

well, you and i disagree that there are disproportionate shootings of blacks

2017-10-07 07:02:18 UTC  

particularly innocent blacks

2017-10-07 07:02:19 UTC  

there are

2017-10-07 07:02:32 UTC  

'innocent'

2017-10-07 07:02:32 UTC  

but black cops do it too

2017-10-07 07:02:36 UTC  

and saying that is racist is retarded

2017-10-07 07:02:41 UTC  

Buff as fuck

2017-10-07 07:02:53 UTC  

what is FAR more likely that black cops being racist against themselves

2017-10-07 07:03:02 UTC  

is that you have a problem that a lot of unintellegent religous people have

2017-10-07 07:03:04 UTC  

god of the gaps

2017-10-07 07:03:13 UTC  

god used to explain everything

2017-10-07 07:03:21 UTC  

but as soon as it got proven to be something else by science

2017-10-07 07:03:28 UTC  

god just filled in the rest of the gaps

2017-10-07 07:03:30 UTC  

same way with you

2017-10-07 07:03:34 UTC  

everything is because of racism

2017-10-07 07:03:37 UTC  

and you bring up examples

2017-10-07 07:03:40 UTC  

and when they get proven wrong

2017-10-07 07:03:44 UTC  

it must be because of some other racism

2017-10-07 07:03:55 UTC  

reidoon, what do you say to my postulation that it's "rational" based on crime percentages but should be corrected

2017-10-07 07:03:56 UTC  

Backfire effect

2017-10-07 07:04:04 UTC  

It's strong

2017-10-07 07:04:24 UTC  

@casualgardener If its rational it doesnt need to be corrected

2017-10-07 07:05:01 UTC  

i'm saying, even if it's based on real probabilities, it results in more innocent black death, and that's an ethical issue

2017-10-07 07:05:04 UTC  

that can be corrected

2017-10-07 07:05:06 UTC  

through training

2017-10-07 07:05:18 UTC  

Your info is incorrect, fake, and proves nothing

2017-10-07 07:05:26 UTC  

@casualgardener But it doesn't. The amount of innocents killed relative to the criminality of their population is not unethical.

2017-10-07 07:05:36 UTC  

Absolute zero

2017-10-07 07:05:37 UTC  

its about the same across the board

2017-10-07 07:05:48 UTC  

if 1 in 10 people shot by police are innocent

2017-10-07 07:05:59 UTC  

then that would obvious be more if more are arrested from crimes

2017-10-07 07:06:06 UTC  

Let me ask you something

2017-10-07 07:06:07 UTC  

the number is more, but you are ignoring relativity