Message from @Offset
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hail the god ra punks
he didnt give the orders for the soldiers to fire
he felt terrible about the event
well, obviously
i mean
stalin barely ordered any executions himself
but that's besides the point
lol wtf
stalin apology is retarded
Yes Nicholas II handled a lot of things ineffectivelt, which could be argued to have led the protests which were fired upon, but he was not even in St petersburg when it happened
"Although the Tsar was not at the Winter Palace and did not give the order for the troops to fire, he was widely blamed for the inefficiency and callousness with which the crisis had been handled. While it was unrealistic for the marchers to expect Nicholas to ride out into the Palace Square to meet them, his absence from the city, against at least some advice, reflects a lack of imagination and perception that he was to show on other occasions. The killing of people, many of whom had seen the Tsar as their "Little Father", resulted in a surge of bitterness towards Nicholas and his autocratic rule. A widely quoted reaction was "we no longer have a Tsar"."
okay
and
you said he was directly responsible for the killings
that is objectively false
Is being cucked better than being a normal user
give me the tldr of what u niggers are talkin bout
it places you above the normal people
well, yeah
he didn't order it directly
whats with the "EMOBRO" shit?
some shit trent did
but he's still responsible for creating that atmosphere
your initial statement you admit was wrong
im just too lazy for change it
I conceeded initially that he was a poor leader
Not going to argue that
I said he was a good man and a good Christian
He never wanted to rule and his father was ineffective at teaching him, thinking him to weak to rule
tbh pedes, these next few days are gonna be hard cause we'll find out if trump fucked us on obamacare or not
Doesnt excuse some of his poor performance bu still
i mean
he's also sorta responsible for escalating ww1
And the Kaiser was not?
it would have been a tiny, irrelevant conflict if he hadn't intervened
not in the same sense
because imperialistic wars between great empires and tiny shitholes were common
back then
you cant blame the Tsar solely for escelating the war. its much more complicated than that
he certainly played a part