our current system advocated passive lifestyles/staying poor instead of bettering yourself

@Mord Drug users trade groceries for drugs as well.

some systems (idk if it's in US) you earn any money over welfare monthly allowance, you lose the benefit

lets say its $1000

you make 1860

you only keep 860

I see welfare as increasing suffering beyond the suffering caused by the hunger, strife, etc. of the poor.

@agag you should speak

Because they simply make more poor people.

cigarettes go right back into the tax pool though

80% of the cost are taxes

@agag I agree. Mics are only 20 $ Would love to hear your points in person.

No rush or pressure.

Just an idea.

>I give aid
>They have kids
>I give more aid
>They have more kids
>I can't pay anymore
>Riots

Calculations of the cost of $1000 a month BI/$12000 year

All population
$3,908,400,000,000 year

All over 21
$3,368,400,000,000 year

21-65
$2,187,600,000,000 year

21-65 married
$1,093,800,000,000 year

@Kierketard EXACTLY.

It's idiotic to me.

It's doomed to fail.

Especially since the cost of living is a good percentage of what makes people poor.

In one of the worst ways possible.

It's like putting a brick wall in front of the poor, and letting them fester and grow.

Especially during an economic collapse where welfare is no longer a thing.

It makes no sense.

Le. Charity and familial aid for the elderly

Before welfare we had useful house servants

https://www.statista.com/statistics/246234/personal-savings-rate-in-the-united-states/

Just took my male multivitamin, fish oil, and vitamin B-12 supplements

@Kierketard people save less in times of economic prosperity

look at 2012

of course it's high savings

Kony

The Detroit riots actually lowered the incomes of Blacks.

White/Black income differences were at 98%

reinstalling pubg

@Chilliam Ace Preach it

someone teach me how 2 play

fuck detroit riots

^

@Mahojo 👌🏻