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who consider themselves french
But they are not French @Somedudewithaname
and played for the french team
they think they are.
would Polish Jews who've been there longer than 100 years be Polish
@Mord what makes someone who’s family has been in Poland for 30 years any less deserving of living in Poland than the ones who have been there for 100 years
l used it as an example, l don't want to argue semantics on it
Well I don't mean to gang up on you
And if you feel overwhelmed lmk lol
I think that the example itself is flawed though
So far you've shown common identiy to be what unifies a nation
what's a French person? Before the French government essentially committed linguicide there were many different minority groups in France
but you haven't proven where race matters in all this
The point is, what is wrong with a nation wanting to keep to themselves and unite their people as one culture, ethnicity, identity, religion if any, etc..
Occitans, Normans, Basques, Bretons, etc.
Welly your idenity is an arbitrary cut off
the same in Germany
Cause different fench people will have different idenitits
I don't see what the overall unifier even is
Because ethnicity does not determine culture, identity, and religion if said person has assimilated into that society
would you not see identity politics between a Saxon and a Bavarian or a Norman and an Occitan
I'm not sure what the french socalist and the right wingerswould have in common
Culture, race, background, etc.. @Somedudewithaname
BUt dude
Okay im an american fro ma generally liberal area
Likewise
do i share anything in common with some dude from the rural south?
Nope.
But we still both consider ourselves american
that's a pretty destructive attitude
we both have a common idenity
you do share many things in common with some dude from the rural south
@agag me?
You are both American, you are both white presumably, you both may share the same religion, etc..
nope not white
though we may share the same religio
What are you
but our views on it may be different
shared language, shared history, shared political traditions, shared holidays, etc.
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