Message from @The_Don_73

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2018-10-16 07:37:59 UTC  

I was saying reform it so they don't learn fuckall and spend the whole time sitting if that's what you have a problem with

2018-10-16 07:38:06 UTC  

education is indoctrination

2018-10-16 07:38:22 UTC  

no matter who's doing it, childhood education is indoctrination

2018-10-16 07:38:49 UTC  

What's the fucking incentive to have children if you have no control over how they are raised

2018-10-16 07:39:01 UTC  

The children quite literally belong to the state

2018-10-16 07:39:17 UTC  

you still have control over how they're raised

2018-10-16 07:39:23 UTC  

No you don't

2018-10-16 07:39:52 UTC  

perhaps not as much as "traditional education" but children are still raised by their parents

2018-10-16 07:39:58 UTC  

They are surrounded all the time by other indoctrinated children in school, you have zero influence

2018-10-16 07:40:33 UTC  

as their parent you have a huge amount of influence, especially when they're younger

2018-10-16 07:41:29 UTC  

Sure you do lol, from age 3 in kindergarten, from age 6 to 18 in school and then they leave

2018-10-16 07:41:34 UTC  

Wow so much influence

2018-10-16 07:41:53 UTC  

Recently they tried to push the kindergarten entry age here to 2

2018-10-16 07:41:57 UTC  

Disgusting

2018-10-16 07:42:02 UTC  

Luckily it failed

2018-10-16 07:42:28 UTC  

they're not spending their whole lives in school they still interact with their parents daily, in normal households at least

2018-10-16 07:42:44 UTC  

if you don't want your kids going to public school then you can send them to private school if you can afford it

2018-10-16 07:42:53 UTC  

and you can homeschool your kids if you want to

2018-10-16 07:44:24 UTC  

I'm going to get off now, good night

2018-10-16 14:48:35 UTC  

@agag has the original ever been found

2018-10-16 14:48:53 UTC  

Hoss’ memoirs

2018-10-16 14:52:27 UTC  

the manner in which the alleged extermination of Jews is described. This was supposed to have been carried out by a “special detachment” of Jewish prisoners. They took charge of the newly arrived contingents at the camp, led them into the enormous “gas-chambers” and disposed of the bodies afterwards. The S.S., therefore, did very little, so that most of the S.S. personnel at the camp could be left in complete ignorance of the “extermination programme”.

2018-10-16 14:54:17 UTC  

So either the S.S were the ones in the know about it, and were the guilty party as “proven” elsewhere or as Hoss describes Jewish brigades, that have no documentary or eye witness proof

2018-10-16 14:55:58 UTC  

While there were Jews who helped the Nazi that much is true but it’s simply the assignment of blame to them that I find ridiculous

2018-10-16 14:59:34 UTC  

Hoess is supposed to say that the Jehovah’s Witnesses at Auschwitz approved of murdering the Jews because the Jews were the enemies of Christ. When you have the literature say otherwise

2018-10-16 14:59:39 UTC  

Garbe claims members of the group were special objects of hatred by the SS, receiving beatings, whippings and public humiliation and given the dirtiest and most laborious work details for refusing to salute, stand at attention or sing Nazi songs.

2018-10-16 15:02:12 UTC  

So someone is wrong

2018-10-16 15:16:29 UTC  

Or maybe they’re both right haha

2018-10-16 15:49:55 UTC  

Höss says the opposite of that though. He says that the SS were involved. Jewish Sonderkommando are a well known part of the operation of the gas chambers, but the SS were still very much involved in the process. And yes, they're both right. Höss actually corroborates Garbe.

2018-10-16 15:50:01 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486385308951379968/501783886376730645/1e226e0346697db7415c38d5e48eaaeb.png

2018-10-16 15:50:15 UTC  

detachment of SS involved from the start

2018-10-16 15:50:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486385308951379968/501783966190272552/32544c728c772fd52db8336a9d55987a.png

2018-10-16 15:50:30 UTC  

on JWs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486385308951379968/501784008510668831/16d8ffbd2ef1d88fd4f857f198bc1b72-png.png

2018-10-16 16:13:14 UTC  

Okay but nothing about the S.S’s involvement with the gas chambers. So when Hoss says they approved of kill of the Jews but they were also being prosecuted by the Nazis

2018-10-16 16:13:18 UTC  

That makes no sense

2018-10-16 19:25:03 UTC  

Höss also writes about the procedure on page 44, and he's a bit more specific on exactly who's doing what on that page. Sonderkommando were heavily involved in the process, but the actual pouring of the gas crystals was done by "disinfection squads," not the Sonderkommando. He doesn't specify that the disinfection squads were necessarily SS, but from other witnesses it's known that the gassing was done by SS men. Dragon is one example of a witness who attests to this.
*Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp* directly states that it was SS men pouring the gas.

The JW's make sense. They were religious fundamentalists who were so committed to their faith that they were happy about being imprisoned in the name of their religion. I don't know why you find it unbelievable that they would approve of the Jews being persecuted, considering that their approval was also based on their religious views.

2018-10-16 19:25:15 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486385308951379968/501838054231769094/9014af471b0c7a240f57c84718ef348e.png

2018-10-16 19:25:21 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486385308951379968/501838079145934860/2d639b29676368b10c7585928b8023a2.png

2018-10-16 22:02:10 UTC  

>the ss man

2018-10-16 22:02:11 UTC  

Lmao

2018-10-16 22:47:56 UTC  

funny holobunga meme