you'd end up back where you started

Mao killed a 6th of the chinese population, selecting for the most divergent and outspoken types.

tribes would consolidate into states again

@Noxar as long as it's voluntary there's no problem with a "state". I dont like that term because it's confusing. State is geograpihcal monpoly on force.

Good job you just acknowledged State was created by natural progression from families to tribes to towns to regions which needed common administration @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

There's a distinction

I'm fully aware of your argument

consent of the governed makes it voluntary

There is no consent in the US

I can't opt out of taxation when I turn 18

yeah you can

you can go live in the woods in mexico

because you have representative government

I can't say no I don't want my money being sent to Israel

I do

Israel #1!

On a grand scale you can vote because anything less than that makes your opinion irrelevant.

"do you want to pay taxes and have the Ambulance and hospitals operate or do you want to not pay taxes, see our county fall into chaos and be conquered"

Call me authoritarian but I'd much prefer mandatory taxes @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

yeah you can have health care under a free market

that's not an argument

@Noxar Do you have anything you'd say is /ourparty/ in Czechia?

that you vote for

But libertarians like having cock shoved up their ass as long as it's not the government's cock so I guess you might be into it @Supreme Leader Kim 🧧

I find the hatred towards libertarians strange on this server

Conservatives generally recognize free markets are better than government controlled ones, libertarians fully embrace that.

mandatory healthcare is retarded

fuck obamacare

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 Depends what Conservatives you talk to

Just pray a whole lot and take a shot of ice cold jager when you get a cold

You are holding yourself to American constitutionalists when you talk of Conservatives

Yeah, generally speaking Republicans/Conservatives want to reduce size and scope of government.

Epic

I don't for sure

Relative to Democrats/Leftists

be right back

commerce clause power is epic

Daily ping of the cucks

Christians Conservatives wouldn't wish to reduce the Judiciary like Libertarians do

There is a big difference

commerce clause power gives the government very good power

@Logical-Scholar not really, SPD (Freedom and direct democracy) is the only pro-nation party, only voteable one but it's not perfect, mainly because of their direct democracy and referendum stuff. But they seem to have given up on referendums so I don't mind.

Everything else is either Treasonous Social Liberalism, globalist capitalists or full blown cultural Marxists pandering to students by supporting legal weed and free internet