Message from @Ben

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2018-10-14 05:34:53 UTC  

smartest group are esoteric new swabian vedic christians

2018-10-14 05:34:58 UTC  

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2018-10-14 05:35:17 UTC  

I do not doubt that God has greater knowledge of my actions than I do, but I don't believe that God has fated my outcome for me, otherwise the test of life is pointless

2018-10-14 05:35:23 UTC  

@freshdoogie what caused the potential for potential?

2018-10-14 05:35:33 UTC  
2018-10-14 05:35:34 UTC  

The Creator

2018-10-14 05:35:40 UTC  

so you believe in infinite regress?

2018-10-14 05:35:49 UTC  

i believe in infinite determinism

2018-10-14 05:35:54 UTC  

+

2018-10-14 05:35:57 UTC  

so an infinite causal chain?

2018-10-14 05:36:11 UTC  

god is the cause

2018-10-14 05:36:19 UTC  

If there is no free will and everything is predestined then there is no point for heaven or hell or life as a whole

2018-10-14 05:36:29 UTC  

@SweetieSquad that is not for you to say

2018-10-14 05:36:40 UTC  

There is no Heaven or Hell or an afterlife, but there is a Creator

2018-10-14 05:36:48 UTC  

no he's right @freshdoogie

2018-10-14 05:37:01 UTC  

how can God justify condemning people to hell if everything is pre-determined

2018-10-14 05:37:06 UTC  

@freshdoogie Ok, but if God is the cause then determinism is invalidated. Because then you must concede to the self actualized principle, and the human aspect in the localized element of this (free will)

2018-10-14 05:37:13 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/496515828372602890/500904894966923264/1539460046413.jpg

2018-10-14 05:37:31 UTC  

If God made humans perfect in his vision, why do some turn on him as heretics?

2018-10-14 05:37:33 UTC  

free will is unavoidable

2018-10-14 05:37:37 UTC  

@agag i could make a half-ass argument that we are simply an object of god's entertainment and disprove that statement

2018-10-14 05:37:39 UTC  

No need for life: What is decided is decided, theres no choices, no heaven no hell
No heaven: no choices directly to you, and no test of life
No hell: no choices directly to you, no test of life

2018-10-14 05:37:40 UTC  

party rockers in the ho

2018-10-14 05:37:41 UTC  

@Ben we're not perfect

2018-10-14 05:37:44 UTC  

use tonight

2018-10-14 05:37:49 UTC  

@freshdoogie oh you're not a christian are you

2018-10-14 05:38:02 UTC  

lool usa he's trolling

2018-10-14 05:38:03 UTC  

i am a calvinist

2018-10-14 05:38:06 UTC  

@agag if fdr is so good why is there no fdr 2

2018-10-14 05:38:07 UTC  

you have to roll with the punches

2018-10-14 05:38:13 UTC  
2018-10-14 05:38:16 UTC  

his name was eisenhower

2018-10-14 05:38:21 UTC  

no

2018-10-14 05:38:24 UTC  

@Superwalter64 EVRYBODY JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME

2018-10-14 05:38:32 UTC  

eisenhower didn't roll around

2018-10-14 05:38:32 UTC  

actually all the presidents who came after fdr until lbj were pretty much fdr 2

2018-10-14 05:38:33 UTC  

There is a God, his name was Teddy Roosevelt

2018-10-14 05:38:37 UTC  

@SweetieSquad linear life cycle is irrational though

2018-10-14 05:38:45 UTC  

party rock is in the hou