Message from @Leiro レイロ

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2018-10-18 10:47:46 UTC  

20$/h

2018-10-18 10:47:49 UTC  

*

2018-10-18 10:48:00 UTC  

In a same company

2018-10-18 10:49:00 UTC  

that's the argument I'm trying to say. Say we have worker x and worker y. worker x assembles 15 iPhones an hour, and y assembles 10 iPhones an hour, and yet they get paid the same.

2018-10-18 10:49:35 UTC  

<:pepewat:363726771365085185>

2018-10-18 10:49:35 UTC  

let's assume for the sake of the arguement that 10 iPhones produced is equivalent to 20 dollars a hour

2018-10-18 10:50:06 UTC  

so why isn't worker x paid more even though he produces 5 more iphones than worker y?

2018-10-18 10:50:20 UTC  

that's the problem the SNLT theory seeks to reform

2018-10-18 10:51:30 UTC  

i rather you just dm me about questions you have about socialism

2018-10-18 10:51:38 UTC  

everyone learns more that way

2018-10-18 10:51:51 UTC  

So fancy sales commission?

2018-10-18 10:52:03 UTC  

not sales commission

2018-10-18 10:52:14 UTC  

commission dosent account for labour actually done

2018-10-18 10:52:29 UTC  

>see fancy

2018-10-18 10:52:55 UTC  

I get payed per iPhone instead of by the hour right?

2018-10-18 10:53:12 UTC  

yes, it accounts for the labour done

2018-10-18 10:53:27 UTC  

Fancy fucking sales commissions

2018-10-18 10:53:34 UTC  

so in a hypothetical socialist economy, that's how it works

2018-10-18 10:53:41 UTC  

it isn't sales commission ffs

2018-10-18 10:53:54 UTC  

It's commissions

2018-10-18 10:54:19 UTC  

if I sell a house worth 10000 dollars and one 100000, I get 2% of the commission, the wage I get is different

2018-10-18 10:54:36 UTC  

so in no way is it commission, your using the two terms interchangeably

2018-10-18 10:55:05 UTC  

at this point just dm me already any questions you have

2018-10-18 10:55:37 UTC  

I have nothing to dm you about __everything__ you have told me has made me 100% sure socialists arn't human

2018-10-18 10:55:51 UTC  

evidence please

2018-10-18 10:56:01 UTC  

you just were making a straw man argument all this while

2018-10-18 10:56:07 UTC  

and at the end you can't accept it.

2018-10-18 10:56:23 UTC  

I didn't accept it too at first, but I grew out of it.

2018-10-18 10:57:31 UTC  

How, I have told you my concern of appointed life. I believe in the freedom to pursue your own capital venture, anything less stifles innovation and growth, democracy is a slow inefficient system.

2018-10-18 10:58:42 UTC  

NPC more like No Playing Chicken in here boys

2018-10-18 10:59:26 UTC  

>agnostic
>socialist

2018-10-18 10:59:28 UTC  

Lol

2018-10-18 10:59:44 UTC  

Socialist *and* libertarian

2018-10-18 10:59:58 UTC  

A fucking mockery of the free market

2018-10-18 11:00:22 UTC  

freedom to pursue your own capital venture is fine, as long as you pay workers by they theory of SNLT. The problem under a capitalist system following the theory is that your business will. run at a loss and thus the business would shut down

2018-10-18 11:00:30 UTC  

Socialist libertarian that’s like a literary device that I’m too lazy to remember

2018-10-18 11:00:46 UTC  

and what are you talking about? innovation and productivity would skyrocket under a socialist system

2018-10-18 11:01:16 UTC  

@Leiro レイロ then why hasn't it?

2018-10-18 11:01:46 UTC  

@Leiro レイロ not when the fucking decisions are always made by vote

2018-10-18 11:02:00 UTC  

@WizardLizardInABlizzard it has, although the system would lack industrialization because most socialist societies Sprung out of agrarian nations

2018-10-18 11:02:03 UTC  

so it took time