Message from @jeremy

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2019-05-02 21:17:22 UTC  

too hard to intercept

2019-05-02 21:18:54 UTC  

Fair enough, but would it be cost effective in the long run to even fire one

2019-05-02 21:19:07 UTC  

NASA rockets already aren't cost effective

2019-05-02 21:19:28 UTC  

That entire organization is an expense, it never really turns profit, monetarily at least

2019-05-02 21:23:22 UTC  

ICBMs are very cost effective if you put nukes on them

2019-05-02 21:23:45 UTC  

far more effective than bombers or cruise missiles

2019-05-02 21:23:55 UTC  

Not if the enemy has multi kill vehicles

2019-05-02 21:24:49 UTC  

kinetic interceptors are just propaganda

2019-05-02 21:24:59 UTC  

a full scale attack is impossible to stop

2019-05-02 21:25:06 UTC  

and you only need 1 warhead to get through

2019-05-02 21:25:30 UTC  

the best an ABM system can hope for is to stop one or two ICBMs

2019-05-02 21:25:31 UTC  
2019-05-02 21:25:40 UTC  

They throw a bunch of these up

2019-05-02 21:25:42 UTC  

like north korea's arsenal

2019-05-02 21:25:50 UTC  

insufficient

2019-05-02 21:26:00 UTC  

you need 100% reliability

2019-05-02 21:26:15 UTC  

and need to be able to distinguish decoys from warheads

2019-05-02 21:26:19 UTC  

which is very non-trivial

2019-05-02 21:32:57 UTC  

so its not important for missles to go fast thats ur theory ?

2019-05-02 21:33:12 UTC  

they go mach 3 they are gonna upgrade it to mach 5 why isnt mach 3 fast enough ?

2019-05-02 21:33:23 UTC  

why dont they just go mach 22 like nasa does

2019-05-02 21:34:07 UTC  

why would they upgrade it from mach 3 to mach 5 when they could just make it go mach 22 im not a military expert but i think the faster ur missle goes the better no ?

2019-05-02 21:36:36 UTC  

ballistic missiles will go mach ~20 no matter what

2019-05-02 21:36:42 UTC  

because they are ballistic missiles

2019-05-02 21:37:21 UTC  

if you want to throw something at a target halfway around the world you need to throw it at mach 20

2019-05-02 21:37:36 UTC  

if you have a cruise missile that's a different matter

2019-05-02 21:37:52 UTC  

because it's affected by the atmosphere

2019-05-02 21:38:01 UTC  

so it can fly with wings

2019-05-02 21:38:13 UTC  

but it also needs constant power to keep flying long

2019-05-02 21:38:22 UTC  

unless it's a hypersonic glide vehicle

2019-05-02 21:38:44 UTC  

the fastest missle is mach 5

2019-05-02 21:38:52 UTC  

what missile are you talking about?

2019-05-02 21:39:33 UTC  

ICBMs go far faster than mach 5

2019-05-02 21:39:41 UTC  

missles in general no outerspace fantasy stuff

2019-05-02 21:39:56 UTC  

ICBMs go mach 5

2019-05-02 21:40:14 UTC  

some HGVs go mach ~10 iirc

2019-05-02 21:40:27 UTC  

Peak speed for an ICBM is in the ballpark of 6-7km/s (any faster and the payload would go orbital), and it takes about 10 minutes to accelerate to that speed. New York to Moscow is 7500km

2019-05-02 21:40:39 UTC  

fastest ASMs are about mach 5

2019-05-02 21:40:41 UTC  

nasa goes 17500 mph

2019-05-02 21:40:46 UTC  

icbm not even close