Message from @Towelie

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2017-03-31 01:17:25 UTC  

that was the point yeah

2017-03-31 01:17:42 UTC  

I agree with difference in cultures and ideas, not in races

2017-03-31 01:17:51 UTC  

but as you said, it's a linguistic issue

2017-03-31 01:18:43 UTC  

which is a fair point but I think that differentiation is more significant than what people think. Race is tied to culture pretty strongly, and it doesn't take long at all for a neurological state for a lineage to change based on external pressure.

2017-03-31 01:19:15 UTC  

after all, Ashkenazi IQ increased an average of 30 points in only several centuries

2017-03-31 01:19:20 UTC  

depends a lot, you can't tell how someone from a certain ethnic group was educated

2017-03-31 01:19:54 UTC  

and Ashkenazi iQ is in the double digits higher than other Jewish ethnic groups in Israel

2017-03-31 01:20:47 UTC  

almost all politicians in Israel are Ashkenazi, so I think denying race as insignificant is silly dum dum

2017-03-31 01:20:54 UTC  

and all that was based on averages on a selected group of people

2017-03-31 01:21:06 UTC  

it's not representative of every single person of the said group

2017-03-31 01:21:40 UTC  

correct, outliers is a beautiful thing, which makes it so Thomas Sowell can exist

2017-03-31 01:21:49 UTC  

but median is median

2017-03-31 01:22:28 UTC  

as I said, that median was calculated on a reduced number of the said group

2017-03-31 01:23:09 UTC  

medians can tells all and everything depending on why they were done 😉

2017-03-31 01:23:42 UTC  

Well ok I guess you can reduce this to "well I mean those sample sizes may not be 100% correct cause they didn't look at 100% of people".

2017-03-31 01:24:15 UTC  

but looking at a diverse selection of tens of thousands of participants is pretty strong

2017-03-31 01:24:16 UTC  

that's not really the question.

2017-03-31 01:24:17 UTC  

imo

2017-03-31 01:24:34 UTC  

why those number were calculated to begin with is the real question 😉

2017-03-31 01:24:47 UTC  

really ?

2017-03-31 01:25:28 UTC  

plus IQ doesn't determine one's intellect if you want to go that way

2017-03-31 01:25:39 UTC  

I hope you don't do this to every study you disagree with

2017-03-31 01:26:10 UTC  

it only really test the speed at which you solve "simple" problems

2017-03-31 01:26:36 UTC  

I don't, I tend to stay critical, even though I could agree with the study

2017-03-31 01:26:49 UTC  

Correct, studies also show basic behaviour is genetic as well though

2017-03-31 01:27:33 UTC  

basic personality types aren't learned mostly, but inherited. There was a landmark study done in America where they compared adopted children to their biological and adopted parents

2017-03-31 01:27:58 UTC  

99% or more showed stronger correlations with their actual parents based on intelligent and life experiences

2017-03-31 01:28:04 UTC  

very interesting

2017-03-31 01:28:06 UTC  

yes, it has to do with epigenetic for the most part

2017-03-31 01:28:12 UTC  

as, how one was educated

2017-03-31 01:28:37 UTC  

epigentics is externalities "activating" genes

2017-03-31 01:28:52 UTC  

so like, yeah, if you had the power o be super intelligent

2017-03-31 01:28:58 UTC  

but never went to school

2017-03-31 01:29:09 UTC  

you'd likely not have a great potentiality to unlock your potential

2017-03-31 01:29:10 UTC  

yup

2017-03-31 01:29:21 UTC  

but that intelligent gene is physiological, not learned

2017-03-31 01:29:21 UTC  

to stay simple, it's pretty much that yes

2017-03-31 01:30:28 UTC  

I doubt there's a gene for "intelligence" though, no matter what kind of test you agree with that determine the said intellect level

2017-03-31 01:30:31 UTC  

so if a majority of your character is determined by a preset trait sheet inherited by your parents, how doth "race" not come into this?

2017-03-31 01:30:46 UTC  

Also yeah you're correct

2017-03-31 01:30:51 UTC  

intelligence is a number of things