Message from @Towelie

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2017-04-04 08:26:06 UTC  

Since they work on group immunisation not having your children vaccinated makes it more dangerous for others

2017-04-04 08:29:51 UTC  

I think Australia do a similar thing where parents who refuse to immunise their children lose child support payments

2017-04-04 08:30:24 UTC  

it's pretty bad

2017-04-04 08:30:51 UTC  

I wouldn't vaccine my children on the first batch

2017-04-04 08:31:06 UTC  

and if there's issues with the vaccine, I'd not vaccine them at all

2017-04-04 08:32:03 UTC  

I'm a healthy man, I wouldn't care getting vaccinated early, but you have to take special cares for young children and elders

2017-04-04 08:33:57 UTC  

it also goes against our constitution in here, the DRMC (declaration rights of men and citizens) is pretty much against such ineptness

2017-04-04 08:34:46 UTC  

I assume that's referring to punishment for choosing not to vaccinate isn't allowed?

2017-04-04 08:34:56 UTC  

yup

2017-04-04 08:35:11 UTC  

you have the right to treat yourself as you deem fit

2017-04-04 08:35:38 UTC  

I would agree with that if it weren't for the fact that others may be at risk due to another person's decision

2017-04-04 08:35:45 UTC  

that means that you can refuse for example to take a treatement if you don't want to take it

2017-04-04 08:36:18 UTC  

so you have to be at risk yourself due to others' decision ?

2017-04-04 08:37:34 UTC  

If we're going with not vaccinating children due to risk, mass vaccination can prevent those young children from contracting these diseases

2017-04-04 08:37:49 UTC  

Those too young or too weak to be immunised that is

2017-04-04 08:37:58 UTC  

there's a middle ground.

2017-04-04 08:38:18 UTC  

if the vaccine is deemed bad and people are getting infected because of it

2017-04-04 08:38:28 UTC  

why would you vaccine your children ?

2017-04-04 08:38:35 UTC  

I'm not saying you should if the vaccine is bad

2017-04-04 08:38:47 UTC  

I'm saying if there are no dangerous side-effects then it should be mandatory

2017-04-04 08:38:49 UTC  

or even worse, why would you be penalized to not vaccinate your children ?

2017-04-04 08:39:32 UTC  

I don't know, religion might be a good excuse

2017-04-04 08:40:03 UTC  

emphasis on "excuse" 😃

2017-04-04 08:40:50 UTC  

well, jehovahs witnesses religion is against such medecine for example

2017-04-04 08:41:23 UTC  

And blood transfusions too isn't it?

2017-04-04 08:41:33 UTC  

yup

2017-04-04 08:42:31 UTC  

I have no problems with them practicing that faith because it can only harm themselves, but when it puts (luckily at the moment a rather small one due to the majority immunising) other's at risk I cannot condone it

2017-04-04 08:42:38 UTC  

From my point of view it seems selfish

2017-04-04 08:44:46 UTC  

well, people that are at risk for things like influenza are the one at risks when it comes to vaccines

2017-04-04 08:45:32 UTC  

what would happen if you or me would get that virus ? 1 week in a bed ? omg such a high risk ^^"

2017-04-04 08:46:30 UTC  

and if your kids aren't immunised? It could spread to them and they might have serious complications

2017-04-04 08:47:04 UTC  

I agree and i'm not about not ever vaccinating my children

2017-04-04 08:47:20 UTC  

i'm for waiting if there's no complications with the vaccine

2017-04-04 08:47:27 UTC  

I agree with you there

2017-04-04 08:47:43 UTC  

and deem if it might be harmful or not for my children

2017-04-04 08:47:58 UTC  

I don't agree with the sort of punishment that this Serbian guy is giving

2017-04-04 08:48:06 UTC  

A fine for unsafe vaccines is wrong

2017-04-04 08:48:18 UTC  

but to legally penalize somebody because of that is a mistake

2017-04-04 08:49:21 UTC  

I can't say that any vaccine is 100% safe, there is always a chance that problems may arise but if it was well made and is very safe then I can kind of see why the punishment is there

2017-04-04 08:49:46 UTC  

But then there is the question of where that money is going

2017-04-04 08:51:24 UTC  

^^"